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		By: HR Wench		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2007/11/dress-codes.html#comment-1376</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2007 17:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If a male manager has a female employee dressed inappropriately I will always step in and talk to the employee for them (I am a female HR manager).  Some may say this is enabling but I think it just works better.  The woman knows I mean business and is more afraid of me than she is of her male manager, the male manager doesn&#039;t have to worry about how to word things/turning red/being accused of &quot;looking&quot; in the first place, and the female employee doesn&#039;t have to worry about feeling uncomfortable with her boss from then on.  It just works.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If a male manager has a female employee dressed inappropriately I will always step in and talk to the employee for them (I am a female HR manager).  Some may say this is enabling but I think it just works better.  The woman knows I mean business and is more afraid of me than she is of her male manager, the male manager doesn&#8217;t have to worry about how to word things/turning red/being accused of &#8220;looking&#8221; in the first place, and the female employee doesn&#8217;t have to worry about feeling uncomfortable with her boss from then on.  It just works.</p>
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		By: CJ		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 18:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I discovered a clothing line called Weekenders.  Pure comfort, easy care, pack in little space for travel and look sharp.  I get loads of compliments whenever I wear things from their line.  I love them!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;You can find a rep online.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I discovered a clothing line called Weekenders.  Pure comfort, easy care, pack in little space for travel and look sharp.  I get loads of compliments whenever I wear things from their line.  I love them!</p>
<p>You can find a rep online.</p>
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		By: AJH		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 22:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can I just point out that the business suit is a fairly modern invention dating back to the 1700&#039;s at the earliest (and those included knickerbockers). The &quot;corporate suit&quot; look is a late 19th century fashion invention. Fashion history isn&#039;t just about the pretty cloths, there are really social and political reasons for changes in men&#039;s and women&#039;s clothes - you should study it sometime.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;ON the topic of dress codes - I&#039;m a little ashamed to admit that in one of my very first jobs, I frequantly played with the dress code rules.  My co-worker and I were very, very good at our job (since we were sentient humans with brains doing a job that drunken monkeys could have done)but we were bored so we tested how far we could push the dress code.  A skirt that was a hair too short or a sweater that was a tad tight.  We were called into our bosses office once or twice, but he could never fully articulate what, exactly, was wrong with our outfits. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I don&#039;t push the boundaries any more, but at least 3 times a week either my roommate or I will ask the other if an outfit is appropriate for work. It&#039;s not that I wish for clearer rules, but I wish for better options in the stores for my just barely above entry level salary and the ample chest I inherited from both grandmothers. Sometimes what looks professional on a flat chested girl, looks obscenly suggestive on me (for instance button down shirts).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can I just point out that the business suit is a fairly modern invention dating back to the 1700&#8217;s at the earliest (and those included knickerbockers). The &#8220;corporate suit&#8221; look is a late 19th century fashion invention. Fashion history isn&#8217;t just about the pretty cloths, there are really social and political reasons for changes in men&#8217;s and women&#8217;s clothes &#8211; you should study it sometime.</p>
<p>ON the topic of dress codes &#8211; I&#8217;m a little ashamed to admit that in one of my very first jobs, I frequantly played with the dress code rules.  My co-worker and I were very, very good at our job (since we were sentient humans with brains doing a job that drunken monkeys could have done)but we were bored so we tested how far we could push the dress code.  A skirt that was a hair too short or a sweater that was a tad tight.  We were called into our bosses office once or twice, but he could never fully articulate what, exactly, was wrong with our outfits. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t push the boundaries any more, but at least 3 times a week either my roommate or I will ask the other if an outfit is appropriate for work. It&#8217;s not that I wish for clearer rules, but I wish for better options in the stores for my just barely above entry level salary and the ample chest I inherited from both grandmothers. Sometimes what looks professional on a flat chested girl, looks obscenly suggestive on me (for instance button down shirts).</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 18:15:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[How should a male supervisor approach a woman who is dressed inappropriately (i.e. wearing revealing clothing that is more appropriate in a bar) and making men and women uncomfortable?&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW, anyone whos thinks dress codes are not necessary should teach teenagers.  Some of the girls take special pleasure in seeing how uncomfortable they can make their male teachers (think zipper dress that zips from the top and the bottoam on a 16 year-old in the front row).&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Chinook (still don&#039;t have a google account)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How should a male supervisor approach a woman who is dressed inappropriately (i.e. wearing revealing clothing that is more appropriate in a bar) and making men and women uncomfortable?</p>
<p>BTW, anyone whos thinks dress codes are not necessary should teach teenagers.  Some of the girls take special pleasure in seeing how uncomfortable they can make their male teachers (think zipper dress that zips from the top and the bottoam on a 16 year-old in the front row).</p>
<p>Chinook (still don&#8217;t have a google account)</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 20:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I have the very easiest of answers to this problem. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Lets all go back to wearing suits and ties and the ladys equivilant. People did if for literally, thousands of years before the change. No one ever died from wearing a tie to the office and looking like a businessman or woman. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I still wear a suit and tie everyday. I have started to fly without a tie( very hot here most of the year)and I do not wear a suit and a tie on Friday, if I dont have any outside appt. If I do , suit and tie. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Would not kill me to go back to wearing a tie on Friday. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I was once a manager at a top tier insurance carrier. Some lame o came up with this casual day thing for month. Myself and the other managers spent our time, instead of earning for the company and oursleves, policing peoples appearacne. Terrible. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3 Things I wont miss about the 1990s are the Clintons, Self Apprisals, and Casual Day. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Furhter, you must thing I am a real idiot if you want me to believe that &quot;casual dress&quot; is an employee beenfit. &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt; &lt;br/&gt;Concerned Insurance Person.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the very easiest of answers to this problem. </p>
<p>Lets all go back to wearing suits and ties and the ladys equivilant. People did if for literally, thousands of years before the change. No one ever died from wearing a tie to the office and looking like a businessman or woman. </p>
<p>I still wear a suit and tie everyday. I have started to fly without a tie( very hot here most of the year)and I do not wear a suit and a tie on Friday, if I dont have any outside appt. If I do , suit and tie. </p>
<p>Would not kill me to go back to wearing a tie on Friday. </p>
<p>I was once a manager at a top tier insurance carrier. Some lame o came up with this casual day thing for month. Myself and the other managers spent our time, instead of earning for the company and oursleves, policing peoples appearacne. Terrible. </p>
<p>3 Things I wont miss about the 1990s are the Clintons, Self Apprisals, and Casual Day. </p>
<p>Furhter, you must thing I am a real idiot if you want me to believe that &#8220;casual dress&#8221; is an employee beenfit. </p>
<p>Concerned Insurance Person.</p>
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		By: Just another HR lady...		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2007/11/dress-codes.html#comment-1371</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 17:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Interesting discussion, I have always hated dealing with dress code issues, seems like a colossal waste of valuable time, but I know at times it has to be done.  &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Picture HR Manager having to spend time sitting down and explaining several times to (apparently clueless) employee as to why flip-flops are not acceptable in a corporate environment.  Do I have better things to do than explain why beachwear is not appropriate in the workplace?  Um...yes, yes I do.  :-)&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Problem solved at my current workplace...we have no dress code. Portion of the company is a creative environment where employees don&#039;t see clients (i.e. let employees wear whatever they want as long as we can access their brainpower), and portion of the company is manufacturing where the employees wear smocks.    &lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;We&#039;ve discussed a dress code a few times, but as we have never had any kind of issue with employee dress, it just gets dropped off the table.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Congrats on the new little evil one!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting discussion, I have always hated dealing with dress code issues, seems like a colossal waste of valuable time, but I know at times it has to be done.  </p>
<p>Picture HR Manager having to spend time sitting down and explaining several times to (apparently clueless) employee as to why flip-flops are not acceptable in a corporate environment.  Do I have better things to do than explain why beachwear is not appropriate in the workplace?  Um&#8230;yes, yes I do.  🙂</p>
<p>Problem solved at my current workplace&#8230;we have no dress code. Portion of the company is a creative environment where employees don&#8217;t see clients (i.e. let employees wear whatever they want as long as we can access their brainpower), and portion of the company is manufacturing where the employees wear smocks.    </p>
<p>We&#8217;ve discussed a dress code a few times, but as we have never had any kind of issue with employee dress, it just gets dropped off the table.</p>
<p>Congrats on the new little evil one!</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2007/11/dress-codes.html#comment-1370</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 15:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Safe bet, as I could get all melty and say, &quot;I&#039;m just gaining weight!&quot;  Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;But no, a new little evil one will be arriving in late May.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Safe bet, as I could get all melty and say, &#8220;I&#8217;m just gaining weight!&#8221;  Thanks for pointing it out to everyone.</p>
<p>But no, a new little evil one will be arriving in late May.</p>
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		By: tabitharuth		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2007/11/dress-codes.html#comment-1369</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[tabitharuth]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 14:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Congratulations on the maternity pants!  Since you didn&#039;t actually say you were pregnant I thought I better just mention the pants. :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations on the maternity pants!  Since you didn&#8217;t actually say you were pregnant I thought I better just mention the pants. 🙂</p>
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		By: apu		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2007/11/dress-codes.html#comment-1368</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 03:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Detailing, detailing!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I&#039;ve seen dress code policies that simply say stuff like &quot;business/ smart casuals&quot;. The definitions can be really wide and vary from one person to another, leaving room for arguments..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Detailing, detailing!</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen dress code policies that simply say stuff like &#8220;business/ smart casuals&#8221;. The definitions can be really wide and vary from one person to another, leaving room for arguments..</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Nov 2007 23:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Finding comfortable professional pants is never fun.  And can we please have some pockets?  In pants and skirts.  Sometimes I&#039;d like to lock my office when I leave for meetings, but don&#039;t want to take my purse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finding comfortable professional pants is never fun.  And can we please have some pockets?  In pants and skirts.  Sometimes I&#8217;d like to lock my office when I leave for meetings, but don&#8217;t want to take my purse.</p>
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