Comments on: Evil Lawyers, Evil HR People, It’s All the Same

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Lawyer Evil | Cross Roads Center — Thu, 26 Apr 2018 10:22:02 +0000

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By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:54:32 +0000

I work as an HR Advisor. My boss hired someone that went to law school as my peer. We had nothing but trouble. She thought she knew better than anyone else because, she had went to law school after all. She would not consult our legal team and gave legal advice that contradicted our normal stance on things. She only made it 3 years before she found a different job.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:10:30 +0000

Crook lawyers like Adrian J Adams, Esq make me sick. There should be double penalties for crook lawyers and bad cops who are cought braking the law.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 12 Oct 2009 07:55:01 +0000

I do not disagree with the above comments but you cannot deny that fact that in real life there are always going to be “cook lawyers” or “shysters” and “bad cops” a.k.a. “pigs” who selfishly work their best to spoil the “perfect world” for as long what they do makes their pathetic, antisocial self “feel good about it”.

If Karen Nagad is crook she is likely crook because she knows someone likes crook lawyers and would pay good money for crook lawyer services… same I am certain, goes for that character Adrian Adams, who, if part of the above is true, appears to be seriously damaged goods” !

Weather Karen Nagad and Adrian J Adams lie in court is not as nearly important as it is why the system allows it. I am puzzled. Perhaps more referrals to CA BAR should be logged against all “bad apples” who ruin the day for the good, hard working and honest lawyers.

Does she (Karen Nagad) really lies in court? Does she really fabricates evidence? That’s preposterous! For that she, as well as Adrain Adams would be disbarred in some less corrupt states.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 24 Apr 2009 19:50:00 +0000

The reality is HR people are high school educated and innately evil (as you say). They act stupid and they are stupid. I work for one of the biggest Cities in the country and their requirement in HR is that they do whatever MGT asks....whether it is legal or not. If they don't know it's legal, all the better.

Get a real job.

By: Diane

Diane — Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:51:00 +0000

My oh my, how profoundly disappointing…. I hate all of this mumbo jumbo about what lawyers are supposed to do and what HR people are supposed to do and that never the twain shall mix. I heard a statistic somewhere that only about 40% of lawyers work in traditional firms. So, does that mean the rest are not lawyers? I think not. Plenty of highly qualified lawyers are engaged in areas related to employment law and dispute resolution and aren’t “adversarial” as you suggest. Heck, do you know Bob Lewis? – That would be the former “Lewis” of the Jackson Lewis law firm – he’s a highly successful mediator now – a role that is far from adversarial.

I went to law school later than the norm and when I graduated (with over a decade of HR experience), the HR folks drew the same conclusions as you – that now that I was a lawyer, I was somehow a problem – I suspect it was really ignorance of the value of a law degree (far beyond mere litigation as you suggest here) and perhaps a little paranoia. I guess my BS and MS in HR couldn’t convince people I really like HR.

I think the last thing anyone should do is question why someone went to law school, particularly with such myopic and limited thinking about what lawyers do. Moreover, as a true HR lawyer I can see lots of value to persons with law degrees in HR and I can also see the problems with nonlawyers in HR who lack dispute resolution skills and dole out legal theories and advice as if they know what they are talking about. The world is full of opportunities for those who seek them. The important thing is not to put people or professions in little boxes – most of the world really isn’t that way.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 07 Dec 2007 15:44:00 +0000

Don’t worry.. Putting law degrees in to the resume for the position, should only do good, if at the same time one could also prove their ability in HR work & management.

J.C. Carvill
Email: support@cosmosing.com
URL: http://www.cosmosing.com/jeanclaudecarvill/index.php

By: Eric Pennington

Eric Pennington — Tue, 27 Nov 2007 03:42:00 +0000

Since most organizations don't value vision, it does not shock me that someone might be wondering through their career not connecting the dots (which sounds like this individual). In fact, many organizations are content to let people wonder. This is tragic!

I think she is a person who would benefit from finding a caring guide/mentor to help her find that preferred future. Finding "true North" should be of paramount concern to her.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Mon, 26 Nov 2007 19:27:00 +0000

Have you thought about specializing in ERISA? Good benefits lawyers are hard to come by.

By: Daniel

Daniel — Sun, 25 Nov 2007 22:18:00 +0000

Having had friends in L&E law go in house and become successful HR people, the key is not the law degree in and of itself. (And for those who went to law school, you know that you actually learn very little substantively there anyways). Rather, its the experience in dealing with HR-related issues. Those who have made the successful transition into HR can typically boil problems down to simplest concepts and solve them quickly based on their experience.

I think the other difference with lawyers is that we tend to make things more difficult than perhaps they need to be. We’re trained to think about worst-case scenarios which prevents practical advice from being given for some. When lawyers can boil problems down into easy-to-understand concepts, it leads to success no matter what avenue — lawfirm, in-house, HR — they choose.