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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Aug 2009 01:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Lol, I know this is an old blog and not sure if you&#039;re even still following it or not but I was in a similar situation. Worked food service on a college campus and the company handbook said I could never date or socialize with the students(unless I was a student, which I obviously wasn&#039;t). Unfortunately I DID have interest in dating a few of them, and some of them may or may not have shared my interest, but I just trudged along until I finally just said screw it and quit. Anyway, how&#039;d things go for you, assuming you read this?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, I know this is an old blog and not sure if you&#39;re even still following it or not but I was in a similar situation. Worked food service on a college campus and the company handbook said I could never date or socialize with the students(unless I was a student, which I obviously wasn&#39;t). Unfortunately I DID have interest in dating a few of them, and some of them may or may not have shared my interest, but I just trudged along until I finally just said screw it and quit. Anyway, how&#39;d things go for you, assuming you read this?</p>
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		By: Just another HR lady...		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Just another HR lady...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2008 13:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Anti-fraternization policies are sticky at the best of times.  I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ve ever seen a &quot;written&quot; one?  I can honestly only see the validity when there is a conflict of interest in some way...financial impact, separation of duties (i.e. the payroll person&#039;s spouse managing payroll!), supervisory authority, etc.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;I would tend to agree with EHRL, if you get the job, just ask for some clarity on the policy.  My guess is that the &quot;grapevine&quot; has built this policy up into something it wasn&#039;t intended to be originally.   Funny how rumours tend to become fact when they are repeated often enough.  :-)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anti-fraternization policies are sticky at the best of times.  I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ve ever seen a &#8220;written&#8221; one?  I can honestly only see the validity when there is a conflict of interest in some way&#8230;financial impact, separation of duties (i.e. the payroll person&#8217;s spouse managing payroll!), supervisory authority, etc.</p>
<p>I would tend to agree with EHRL, if you get the job, just ask for some clarity on the policy.  My guess is that the &#8220;grapevine&#8221; has built this policy up into something it wasn&#8217;t intended to be originally.   Funny how rumours tend to become fact when they are repeated often enough.  🙂</p>
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		By: Productivity Guy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Productivity Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What an absurd policy. I have been friends with people I manage, and there has never been an issue. Not socializing with people you work with in general... that&#039;s just weird.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an absurd policy. I have been friends with people I manage, and there has never been an issue. Not socializing with people you work with in general&#8230; that&#8217;s just weird.</p>
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		By: another hr rep		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/02/anti-fraternization-policy.html#comment-1769</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[another hr rep]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 16:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Are we sure that&#039;s what the policy&#039;s intent is?  It would be inane AND insane.  If it&#039;s true, I&#039;d love to see how this policy is written!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are we sure that&#8217;s what the policy&#8217;s intent is?  It would be inane AND insane.  If it&#8217;s true, I&#8217;d love to see how this policy is written!</p>
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		By: HR Wench		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HR Wench]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 23:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The only non-fraternization policy that I agree with is supervisors/managers cannot be romantically involved with their direct subordinates as this is too risky for sexual harassment claims.  Barring any other very specific exceptions, non-fraternization policies are pretty dumb in my opinion.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;It is smart to be professional at work.  Let work be work and play be play.  Don&#039;t give others the impression that you would break a rule for anyone.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BUT&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;If someone has input on one of their friend&#039;s performance reviews and it makes management nervous then perhaps management needs to:&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;1. Keep performance reviews as quantifiable as possible.  Have a competent HR rep review the review before it is presented to an employee.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;2. Trust people to do their jobs.  LET people do their jobs.  They will do them!&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;3. Revamp your recruiting program if you are consistently hiring people you cannot trust.  Recognize it is not their fault if you WON&#039;T trust them though.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;Managing by fear is so very, very sad and limiting to the success of the company and its employees.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only non-fraternization policy that I agree with is supervisors/managers cannot be romantically involved with their direct subordinates as this is too risky for sexual harassment claims.  Barring any other very specific exceptions, non-fraternization policies are pretty dumb in my opinion.</p>
<p>It is smart to be professional at work.  Let work be work and play be play.  Don&#8217;t give others the impression that you would break a rule for anyone.</p>
<p>BUT</p>
<p>If someone has input on one of their friend&#8217;s performance reviews and it makes management nervous then perhaps management needs to:</p>
<p>1. Keep performance reviews as quantifiable as possible.  Have a competent HR rep review the review before it is presented to an employee.</p>
<p>2. Trust people to do their jobs.  LET people do their jobs.  They will do them!</p>
<p>3. Revamp your recruiting program if you are consistently hiring people you cannot trust.  Recognize it is not their fault if you WON&#8217;T trust them though.</p>
<p>Managing by fear is so very, very sad and limiting to the success of the company and its employees.</p>
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		By: William the Coroner		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[William the Coroner]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s really quite nuts.  I can see no doinking or dating, but no existence?  And remember, when you meet people from work, you&#039;re at work.&lt;br/&gt;&lt;br/&gt;BTW, I tagged you.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really quite nuts.  I can see no doinking or dating, but no existence?  And remember, when you meet people from work, you&#8217;re at work.</p>
<p>BTW, I tagged you.</p>
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