Comments on: Embarrassed To Be In HR https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html Everything to make HR better Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:40:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2 By: Elena Kombou https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-9418 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:40:13 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-9418 I agree with the previous comments. There is most definitely is a difference between nepotism/cronyism and networking. If you only hire someone because they were recommended and don’t have the right skills/experience or even qualifications, then that is nepotism/cronyism. However hiring on the basis of a good recommendation from a good employee, who also has the right experience, skill set and qualifications needed is in my opinion good networking, for the employer, the employee and the potential candidate. Like evil HR lady said, if I needed lifesaving surgery, I would go by the surgeon’s experience and the recommendation by others. Studies and surveys repeatedly show that employee referrals are a good source of potential candidates. For example, Accenture are reportedly aiming to increase their staff referrals to 40% of hires globally as they say they score highly on the quality of staff recruited. Obviously if the candidate isn’t qualified enough or doesn’t match up to other candidates applying for the position or is being recommended by an employee who doesn’t have the best record then fair enough don’t hire them but if they have all the qualities and qualifications needed and their recommendation is from a good employee then I think it is a good way to find good talent.

Elena Kombou
Head of Social Media and Marketing
rolepoint.com

]]> By: Dave Ferguson https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2823 Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:00:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2823 I can emphathize with Recruiter’s dilemma, but I’ve had my own time frittered away by a self-described recruiter who seemed to me to be behind schedule in filling some slot.

I’ve also had the in-house recruiter from a company that wanted to hire me say to me, “I need to know how much money you’re making because we base our offer on that.”

Perhaps so, but my limited experience tells me most companies have some range they’ll pay for a position, and all things being equal, they won’t go over that range for the reincarnation of Leonardo DaVinci (or, for some employers, Niccolo Machiavelli).

Time-wasters, like stupidity, are a constant in the universe. You can minimize your exposure, but sooner or later a concentration will form. Just don’t let the contagion spread to you.

And a person who doesn’t understand the difference between nepotism, cronyism, and networking probably confused process with product, ends with means, and arse with elbow.

]]> By: Muyiwa Tomiwa https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2822 Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:30:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2822 hi,
firm and strong, the $300 to me isn’t the issue.
doing what is right professionaly must be maintained.i think a system can be set up to act as a check to other HR firms, something like this appeals like a check if a proper system is put in place i think every HR personnel would properly carry out their services

]]> By: Marina https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2821 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 20:12:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2821 My former manager frequently reccomended people for me to utilize as freelance contract workers on our projects, undoubtedly in the “networking” mindset, they all worked with her previously. She also pressured me to continue to use them against my better judgement. Without question, I can honestly say that they were the poorest performers. I learned a very valuable lesson, and will now keep very careful metrics of everyone I manage so that I can, with facts, stop utilizing someone who is more of a burden than an asset.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2820 Thu, 31 Jul 2008 03:05:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2820 cronyism is how we get people like Monica Goodling and other Bush cronies in like Brownie

]]> By: Corey J Feldman https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2819 Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:35:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2819 Referrals are a great way to find quality candidates. You have to weigh all the factors, and I wouldn’t hire a less qualified candidate over a more qualified one simple because of a referral. But if you have employees that are invested in the company, they are typically going to give you a good referral because their name/reputation is attached. As long as you take care to keep a diverse workforce, I see no issue with referrals. While I admit to not pulling any metrics on this, my anecdotal experience has always been that referrals from top performers typically lead to more top performers.

]]> By: Jake https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2818 Tue, 29 Jul 2008 06:08:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2818 You know I read anonymous’ post and thought he was insane, so I researched myself and the scary thing is he or she is right :/ According to this study 77% of hiring managers in the US say cronyism/nepotism was the reason they hired someone

http://ww.management-issues.com/2007/8/31/research/cronyism-forces-half-of-us-managers-to-hire-someone-they-dont-want.asp

]]> By: Leroy Grinchy https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2817 Mon, 28 Jul 2008 19:34:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2817 There is a shortage of doctors, so I’m sure that the pompous jerk neurosurgeon and the good joke teller are both going to get jobs. I have heard a case where a good doctor sexually assaulted a student. Charges were dropped because his research was “too valuable” so your assertion that skill matters is true.

But many jobs are NOT brain surgery and can be done by any idiot. These are the jobs that people get not because they are qualified but because of who they know.

This has been happening since the dawn of time. Words aside, people favor people they like, they favor friends and family. This is true everywhere. Good or bad, it happens a whole lot, and there’s not a lot that can be done to change it. That’s what I think the poster was speaking about.

As I said before, I’m so discouraged, I don’t feel like I’ll ever get a dream job. I am really, really happy in my current positions, though. I didn’t know anyone here to get me the jobs, either.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2816 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 21:17:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2816 Rethink money…most banks and investment companies provide this service to companies for free (in the hopes of drumming up business)…I’ve had many sessions on managing personal finances for my employees at no cost…sorry.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2815 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 19:55:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/07/embarrassed-to-be-in-hr.html#comment-2815 rethink money is a horrible idea, but it is like HR in a way…it offers nothing and is expensive.

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