Comments on: You Make More Money???!?!?!?!? https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html Everything to make HR better Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:59:44 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.4 By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3292 Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:10:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3292 This is an example of the reason why some HR people dislike salary.com’s SalaryWizard. Salary.com publishes a market pricing rate based on a simple formula for 1000s of jobs. You might not like the methodology they use, but it makes the information available to everyone. Then it’s not really a surprise that someone in California doing the same job as someone in Minnesota is making a load more cash.

]]> By: Dustin https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3291 Thu, 04 Dec 2008 21:45:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3291 My Daughter came home yesterday with a B that she had worked very very very hard for. She was so excited (as was I)- that is until she saw the A her GT brother got.

Now did the A her brother got change the her achievement – NO! It was still awesome, but now she did not think so and that is sad.

We need to teach people to be happy with the deal they made no matter what is going on around them. There will always be someone with a faster car, a bigger house, or something. None of that takes away from the house or car you own.

If he liked is salary before – he should still like it. I understand this is to the way Humans work – but it is a change for the better.

I think a couple of mission trips or time spent at the soup kitchen would help drive home the concept.

Be happy with your own deal – regardless…..

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3290 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:25:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3290 Sorry, previous anon again.

It’s the NLRB.

http://www.nlrb.gov/workplace_rights/i_am_new_to_this_website/what_are_protected_concerted_activities.aspx

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3289 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:21:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3289 Maybe I’m out in left field, please correct me if I’m wrong.

Doesn’t the DOL protect the right to discuss this? Protected concerted activities?

I agree it damages his credibility for future jobs, but I don’t believe he can be disciplined for this.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3288 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 19:20:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3288 MFK (Open-Source Career), If you don’t like the offer go to another company. This isn’t communism, it’s capitalism. If the HR person wants to offer somebody else more, they are entitled to it. Life is not fair. No one owes you anything. If you don’t like the pay scale, then start your own company. Go cry on your mama’s shoulder, companies have been doing this since the inception of time. Look, Ideally, you should be offered the same pay, but we know life, is NOT fair, and to claim that it is means you’re in denial. Again, if you don’t like it, start your own company, and soon you will see that the inequities that you so hate, will be inevitable.
As a second note, how do we know the manager 1 wasn’t doing something extra that wasn’t being disclosed? Maybe neglected to be disclosed? The extra mile? Although the second manger turned his dept around, how do we know that the first didn’t as well and maybe even better? So much wasn’t disclosed in the blog…

]]> By: The Engineer https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3287 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:28:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3287 In the government realm. All compensation information is public. One of our local newspapers even runs a website with a searchable database of every government employee’s pay (organized by City, County, agency, etc.).

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3286 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:45:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3286 Oh EHRL, how I love your blog! Amusing and informative! But what got me about this post was your reference to your favorite joke. If I’m thinking of the same one (punch line: …better Nate than lever! Hahaha!), my version takes about a half hour to tell. The punch line once earned me a hard slug in the gut for lameness. It’s been years since I’ve heard or told it. In the midst of my own HR madness (mass RIF’s), you brought a smile to my face! Cheers!

]]> By: lydiajane https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3285 Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:50:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3285 I’ve been in HR for over 20 years; at first, it surprised me that employees shared their salary information – wasn’t that supposed to be confidential? But, over the years, I’ve found that no matter how many keys there are to the HR files and databases – people find out how much their co-workers make. And if there is disparity, there is discontent. As there should be!

All employees should be paid in accordance with their skills and contributions to the organization. Of course, there will always be the disagreements about who worked harder or deserved more, but, working with the operational managers, there should generally be, if folks act with integrity and honesty, no issue about who is paid what and why.

I know, this is an ideal world I’m suggesting, but it is the way compensation is “supposed” to work – those who contribute more, by rational and measurable standards, get paid more.

In my view, if an employee feels he/she is being underpaid, the operational manager should be perfectly prepared to explain why, and offer suggestions for how the employee can improve their performance and gain the higher pay scale. Call me an idealist, but I think this is the role of HR management – to work hard to insure folks are compensated fairly, and managers know how to make this happen.

]]> By: clobbered https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3284 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:57:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3284 I also agree with Jaded HR rep from a different perspective: I am not in HR, and I do NOT want to know what everybody else gets paid. I think I do a good job and I think I am compensated well, and my salary has increased in line with my responsibilities. Why is anything else my business? Generally I have found when employees have told each other what they earned it has led to bad feeling. Moreover in some fields, the “average” employee that Jaded HR Rep describes can simply not become better – they are working conscientiously but to the limits of their intellect. Do you really want to rub their face in it?

I think an employer should make sure that employees are fairly and consistently compensated by having regular management reviews, perhaps as part of the staff evaluation process if there is one.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3283 Tue, 02 Dec 2008 22:04:00 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2008/12/you-make-more-money.html#comment-3283 The solution is an open “salary range”. The workers with more experience/education on the top.Of course base on performance too.
About salary leaks in a company….my boss (supervisor)found out from a friend HR person (outside the company), I make more money than him. Of course he is half my age/education/experience, so now how is he going to fairly review me and give a fair increase?
Of course I’m talking about a company where EVERYTHIG is a secret because of the double standards, and promotions by friends more than performance.
I would like to see some faces if we would have an open salary policy…hahaha

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