Comments on: MD activity at work https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html Everything to make HR better Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:08:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0 By: ministar27 https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4804 Wed, 25 Nov 2009 00:08:19 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4804 I've been working in Korea for almost two years now… and one thing I really can't understand is that they don't like when you stay home because you're sick. One boss told me that if you're sick, you have to be sick at work, and if you're going to die because you're sick, you die at work, and that's how it should be done so I should follow it.
So if one person gets cold/flu, almost the whole floor gets sick within a month.
I got used to a lot of things during my stay, with the different culture, but this is one thing I just can't understand! 😉

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4803 Sat, 21 Nov 2009 06:14:09 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4803 Nice idea. You must never have worked in a call center. Goiod luck getting time off for your own funeral if you work in one of those.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4802 Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:44:07 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4802 I went to the Doctor today due to being ill. As the day went on, my symptoms got worse and I asked if I could go home. My supervisor told me that I would get an occurrence if I were to leave. I asked about the new policy from last week about the Flu. My supervisor then spoke with H.R. and returned to my desk and handed me this paper thermometer. I was told “I need to take your temperature" which I complied. My supervisor read my temp at 97.2 and told me I had no fever. Is my supervisor trained to read temps? Should I have declined? I was sick and felted threatened and did as I was instructed. What can I do now that my privacy was invaded? My supervisor and I do not care much about each other and now I feel ashamed for I was supposedly not “sick” enough to go home. I also would like to mention an email we got from our company’s wellness department stating if we feel sick, do your coworkers a favor and stay home. Hmmmm

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4801 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:54:21 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4801 We have a very tight PTO policy – 10 days, no separate sick days and only 7 paid holidays – and this is at a very senior level.

That is enough to visit family on the opposite coast once per year, and take one vacation and that's it. So, if I'm sick, as long as I can drag myself out of bed, get dressed and make it in to the office, I'm not taking that precious PTO.

As a result, I get paid for a day where I end up staring at my monitor for 9 hours and getting no work done due to being ill, while spreading germs around the office. All thanks to such a well thought out vacation policy.

]]> By: 7daytrial https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4800 Tue, 27 Oct 2009 09:25:41 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4800 Olivia- Most of the time I would totally agree. Without giving out too much information, I work for an amazing company. The job itself is horrible, but it is the best company I have ever worked for.

That being said, they know the attendance policy is terrible and they are trying to revamp it. Right now, they say that the policy is pretty lax (HA!) and they are putting in amendments for flu season.

It seems that my situation drew a lot of attention. Now, you can get the points waived if you bring a doctors note immediately upon returning to work. The note must state that you were seen for "flu-like symptoms" and it will excuse up to 4 days.

Since it is a call center and we have to totally put the customer first, we don't really have a lot of room for people to be absent. It get's pretty hellish when we are shorthanded.

There are also lots of theories running around about our staffing and lots of people are getting terminated. We'll just have to see how this holiday season plays out and hope for the best.

]]> By: Olivia https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4799 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 21:40:21 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4799 7 day trial – see my comment regarding the kind of company you work for. What amazes me is that KNOWING that you had the flu, they FORCED you to come in, and potentially infect many others, who then would have to either come in or be terminated, etc. One assumes, as well, that they will wind up having to fire some people, probably otherwise good employees, who will exceed their time off due to personal and/or family illness time. Then, they'll have to recruit, retrain, etc. Stupidity.

]]> By: 7daytrial https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4798 Mon, 26 Oct 2009 05:16:32 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4798 Kerry– Normally, I would be. However, you are allowed 12 weeks of fmla leave per year and I used all of mine on maternity leave.

]]> By: Anonymous https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4797 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 16:36:52 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4797 It is precisely this sort of thing that prompted the city of San Francisco to require that employers provide paid sick leave, particularly in the restaurant industry.

]]> By: Kerry https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4796 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 12:38:05 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4796 7dayleave—are you not eligible for FMLA leave? Typically a weeklong flu involves a doctor visit, which means it falls under FMLA (which means no points).

]]> By: 7daytrial https://www.evilhrlady.org/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4795 Sun, 25 Oct 2009 08:03:25 +0000 http://localhost/wordpress/2009/10/md-activity-at-work.html#comment-4795 I work in a call center and our attendance policy is based on a points system. You get x amount of points for how many hours you miss, or 10 points to miss a whole day. 70 points and you're fired.

We have sick time and vacation time, but if you can't get the time off approved then you have to take points. It's a 'no fault' policy so someone that's bleeding to death in the hospital with a doctor's note gets the same amount of points as someone that called in to stay home and play video games all day.

My 3 month old daughter had the swine flu and I regretfully had to leave her in the care of her grandparents. I called work to let them know what was going on and they made it very clear that, though they felt bad for me, I was still expected to be at work.

That is, until I went in.

I went into work, coughing and sneezing and sweating. My teammates flipped out at the mention of swine flu and expressed their concerns to management. My Lead spoke to a supervisor and worked very hard to find a solution. After about 3 hours, I was sent home with pay and no points. I was told that I would have to take points for the following day if I didn't come in.

Obviously I wasn't better the next day, but I didn't have a choice. I had some childcare problems and then i had to take points to take my daughter to her grandparent's 3 states away, so i couldn't, points-wise, afford to stay home. If I lost my job, I would have spent over a thousand dollars and unknowingly exposed my daughter to swine flu for nothing.

Here it is, a week later, and I still have a cough. If they made me stay home, I would be unemployed. Yes, it's very sad that some of my co-workers may have gotten sick because I didn't have any other option, but I was very careful to keep hand sanitizer with me and try to contain my germs as best as possible.

I also made sanitizer available to those immediately around me. We even attempted to wear masks, but the nature of our job doesn't allow that to work very well.

It's unfortunate that i got sick, but when it comes down to it… my job is worth more to me than someone elses' health. I would be very sad to learn that someone's child was sick because of me, but I can't let that keep me from going to work. I still have bills to pay while my husband is fighting for our country.

Until employers let sick people stay home with pay and no punishment, sick people will continue to go to work and infect their friends. It's just one of those sucky things about life.
/rant

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