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		By: Gary		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gary]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Sep 2018 00:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I witnessed my boss give a horrible reference (swearing and all) in front of the entire staff over the phone to a prospective employer of someone who was fired from my current place of employment. He was not a horrible employee, he was punctual did his job, worked through his lunch. but he had a bit of a temper and mouthed off a customer...in the parking lot. so he was fired and should have been for doing something as stupid as that but it made me think:  &quot;is this what he will say about me when i leave?&quot; If my boss has this low of a regard for a former employee that he will be this unprofessional and defame someone openly what is to say i wont get this same treatment? and correct me if i am wrong but this is Defamation is it not?

would references which are so blatantly one sided be met with criticism by HR or would they just be taken as is?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I witnessed my boss give a horrible reference (swearing and all) in front of the entire staff over the phone to a prospective employer of someone who was fired from my current place of employment. He was not a horrible employee, he was punctual did his job, worked through his lunch. but he had a bit of a temper and mouthed off a customer&#8230;in the parking lot. so he was fired and should have been for doing something as stupid as that but it made me think:  &#8220;is this what he will say about me when i leave?&#8221; If my boss has this low of a regard for a former employee that he will be this unprofessional and defame someone openly what is to say i wont get this same treatment? and correct me if i am wrong but this is Defamation is it not?</p>
<p>would references which are so blatantly one sided be met with criticism by HR or would they just be taken as is?</p>
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		By: Jan		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2017 08:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208831&quot;&gt;Kate&lt;/a&gt;.

well,I dont mean to be rude but you had that one coming. When your Conscience pings back like that, its a sign that you did the wrong thing.
If you cant give someone a good reference, then you shouldn&#039;t give one at all. People are trying to get hired and if you&#039;ve already agreed to help them out by being a reference, then you should go all of the way. Whats it to you that they&#039;re looking to move on with their career?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208831">Kate</a>.</p>
<p>well,I dont mean to be rude but you had that one coming. When your Conscience pings back like that, its a sign that you did the wrong thing.<br />
If you cant give someone a good reference, then you shouldn&#8217;t give one at all. People are trying to get hired and if you&#8217;ve already agreed to help them out by being a reference, then you should go all of the way. Whats it to you that they&#8217;re looking to move on with their career?</p>
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		By: Kate		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kate]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Mar 2017 18:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was called to provide a reference for someone who was being offered a job in a different part of my organization. When I called back to provide it, I found out they&#039;d already hired her. However, they still were interested in anything I wanted to share. I was honest that she had some skills, but also some areas for growth. She was hired (and not working for me) so I could rest easy I had been honest yet not cost her the job.

I just found out that someone disclosed to her that I gave a less-than-glowing reference. She has now shared this with at least one other person in our company for whom I had also provided a reference (though very positive). He now worried about what I&#039;d said about him.  Well I don&#039;t regret being honest, it certainly makes me hesitant to answer a reference check in the future, and concerned there are ethics violations.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was called to provide a reference for someone who was being offered a job in a different part of my organization. When I called back to provide it, I found out they&#8217;d already hired her. However, they still were interested in anything I wanted to share. I was honest that she had some skills, but also some areas for growth. She was hired (and not working for me) so I could rest easy I had been honest yet not cost her the job.</p>
<p>I just found out that someone disclosed to her that I gave a less-than-glowing reference. She has now shared this with at least one other person in our company for whom I had also provided a reference (though very positive). He now worried about what I&#8217;d said about him.  Well I don&#8217;t regret being honest, it certainly makes me hesitant to answer a reference check in the future, and concerned there are ethics violations.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2016 02:58:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208353&quot;&gt;Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m having the same issue I&#039;m trying to find a teaching job. So frustrating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208353">Ann</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m having the same issue I&#8217;m trying to find a teaching job. So frustrating.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 02:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208154&quot;&gt;Daryl Basarab&lt;/a&gt;.

Just had that experience. ..shocking as wasted hours of 4-5 peoples time.  I consistently get to being the preferred candidate then it goes cold....turns out a past boss I thought appreciated my work is having a field day putting me down]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208154">Daryl Basarab</a>.</p>
<p>Just had that experience. ..shocking as wasted hours of 4-5 peoples time.  I consistently get to being the preferred candidate then it goes cold&#8230;.turns out a past boss I thought appreciated my work is having a field day putting me down</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Nov 2016 02:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208154&quot;&gt;Daryl Basarab&lt;/a&gt;.

Just had that experience. ..shocking as wasted hours of 4-5 peoples time.  I consistently get to being the preferred candidate then it goes cold....turns out a boss I thought appreciated my work is having a field day putting me down]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-208154">Daryl Basarab</a>.</p>
<p>Just had that experience. ..shocking as wasted hours of 4-5 peoples time.  I consistently get to being the preferred candidate then it goes cold&#8230;.turns out a boss I thought appreciated my work is having a field day putting me down</p>
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		By: Daryl Basarab		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daryl Basarab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 03:24:23 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39410&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, some people are two-faced.  Is this news to you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39410">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, some people are two-faced.  Is this news to you?</p>
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		By: Daryl Basarab		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daryl Basarab]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Oct 2016 03:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39410&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

Actually, some people are two-faced.  Is this news to you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39410">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>Actually, some people are two-faced.  Is this news to you?</p>
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		By: Andrew		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 May 2015 02:48:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-127696&quot;&gt;Natascha&lt;/a&gt;.

I had this happen to me. My references were glowing, but the HR person also did a blind call to my supervisor from a previous employer, who had less than kind things to say. So the HR person called me and asked if I could explain my relationship with my old boss.

The answer on my end was fairly simple; there were no performance issues, but he was offended and upset when I put in my two weeks notice. I then offered to provide another reference from that company if they desired. 

Without providing further detail, they said that my comment made a lot of sense. I&#039;ve never found out what my old supervisor said, but the HR person thought &quot;it [was] hilarious in retrospect&quot;. I received a job offer two hours later.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-127696">Natascha</a>.</p>
<p>I had this happen to me. My references were glowing, but the HR person also did a blind call to my supervisor from a previous employer, who had less than kind things to say. So the HR person called me and asked if I could explain my relationship with my old boss.</p>
<p>The answer on my end was fairly simple; there were no performance issues, but he was offended and upset when I put in my two weeks notice. I then offered to provide another reference from that company if they desired. </p>
<p>Without providing further detail, they said that my comment made a lot of sense. I&#8217;ve never found out what my old supervisor said, but the HR person thought &#8220;it [was] hilarious in retrospect&#8221;. I received a job offer two hours later.</p>
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		By: Anon		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2014 12:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39736&quot;&gt;Cindy&lt;/a&gt;.

I wonder why a reference does that surely she did the standard call or email request to ask whether the reference was willing to be named so? I just don&#039;t get why a referee would give a bad reference rather opt ou than mess with someone&#039;s livelyhood!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2012/08/have-you-ever-hired-someone-with-a-bad-reference.html#comment-39736">Cindy</a>.</p>
<p>I wonder why a reference does that surely she did the standard call or email request to ask whether the reference was willing to be named so? I just don&#8217;t get why a referee would give a bad reference rather opt ou than mess with someone&#8217;s livelyhood!</p>
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