<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	
	>
<channel>
	<title>
	Comments on: 5 Reasons You Need to be the Morality Police	</title>
	<atom:link href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html/feed" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html</link>
	<description>Everything to make HR better</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:19:43 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>
	hourly	</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>
	1	</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.2</generator>
	<item>
		<title>
		By: Nicholas MOSES		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55940</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas MOSES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55940</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55868&quot;&gt;Jay from Philly&lt;/a&gt;.

In certain social milieux, a polygynous sex life is considered a marker of virility (to the point where wives *almost* expect it) and men *want* people to find out about it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55868">Jay from Philly</a>.</p>
<p>In certain social milieux, a polygynous sex life is considered a marker of virility (to the point where wives *almost* expect it) and men *want* people to find out about it.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Nicholas MOSES		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55939</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nicholas MOSES]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Apr 2013 20:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55939</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Note: Mme Lucas&#039;s (very good) advice applies to the U.S., but elsewhere, you need to be careful. In many other jurisdictions, you could not fire a salaried employee for having an extramarital affair unless the employee&#039;s ethics and personal image directly and demonstrably impacted the ethics and/or image of the organization (i.e., a religious minister or an ethics teacher who cheats on his wife).

In France, in particular, you cannot fire an employee without &quot;real and serious&quot; cause, meaning you have to cite facts of faults the employee has actually committed directly related to the office. The French code contained a provision allowing employers to fire employees in whom they have &quot;lost trust&quot;; such a provision might have allowed for the firing an employee whose personal conduct was obviously reprehensible, but the courts have for several decades held this to be unenforceable (unless of course material facts can be cited for the lead-up to the mistrust, facts which are themselves &quot;real and serious&quot;) as it is too vague and subjective and therefore can easily become the instrument of arbitrary abuse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note: Mme Lucas&#8217;s (very good) advice applies to the U.S., but elsewhere, you need to be careful. In many other jurisdictions, you could not fire a salaried employee for having an extramarital affair unless the employee&#8217;s ethics and personal image directly and demonstrably impacted the ethics and/or image of the organization (i.e., a religious minister or an ethics teacher who cheats on his wife).</p>
<p>In France, in particular, you cannot fire an employee without &#8220;real and serious&#8221; cause, meaning you have to cite facts of faults the employee has actually committed directly related to the office. The French code contained a provision allowing employers to fire employees in whom they have &#8220;lost trust&#8221;; such a provision might have allowed for the firing an employee whose personal conduct was obviously reprehensible, but the courts have for several decades held this to be unenforceable (unless of course material facts can be cited for the lead-up to the mistrust, facts which are themselves &#8220;real and serious&#8221;) as it is too vague and subjective and therefore can easily become the instrument of arbitrary abuse.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Jay from Philly		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55868</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jay from Philly]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2013 16:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55868</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[You would think the number one rule for an affair would be not to let anyone else know about it.  Boss and coworkers would be included in that group known as &quot;anyone else&quot;.

As for dating coworkers, my workplace is the unsexiest place in the world, and is a real moodkiller.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You would think the number one rule for an affair would be not to let anyone else know about it.  Boss and coworkers would be included in that group known as &#8220;anyone else&#8221;.</p>
<p>As for dating coworkers, my workplace is the unsexiest place in the world, and is a real moodkiller.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55819</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55819</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55817&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

Here&#039;s the thing. If I don&#039;t know about it, clearly, I&#039;m not going to act on it. If i do know about it, it&#039;s already affected the office. So, yeah, it&#039;s a trust thing. If I can&#039;t trust you, I can&#039;t have you working for me, end of story.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55817">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the thing. If I don&#8217;t know about it, clearly, I&#8217;m not going to act on it. If i do know about it, it&#8217;s already affected the office. So, yeah, it&#8217;s a trust thing. If I can&#8217;t trust you, I can&#8217;t have you working for me, end of story.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Anonymous		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55817</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:46:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55817</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55748&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

Earlier you said you would probably fire someone for cheating because it means he cannot be trusted with your business.  Here you say only when outside relationships are physically intruding with work.  

In my office, we would not terminate someone for cause without asking them about the alleged misconduct.  Someone crying at the door claiming to be a girlfriend would not be enough.  But if you are saying you would terminate someone for that, but not ask them about it first?  Hard-nosed.  

Security would not let in spouses / girlfriends in my office.  Sure someone could be terminated for taking too many personal calls at work, but that would be unrelated to whether the calls were from a cheating spouse / girlfriend / uncle.  And it would take a lot of calls that was affecting one&#039;s work, not for the calls themselves, or the cheating.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55748">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>Earlier you said you would probably fire someone for cheating because it means he cannot be trusted with your business.  Here you say only when outside relationships are physically intruding with work.  </p>
<p>In my office, we would not terminate someone for cause without asking them about the alleged misconduct.  Someone crying at the door claiming to be a girlfriend would not be enough.  But if you are saying you would terminate someone for that, but not ask them about it first?  Hard-nosed.  </p>
<p>Security would not let in spouses / girlfriends in my office.  Sure someone could be terminated for taking too many personal calls at work, but that would be unrelated to whether the calls were from a cheating spouse / girlfriend / uncle.  And it would take a lot of calls that was affecting one&#8217;s work, not for the calls themselves, or the cheating.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Another Evil HR Director		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55762</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Evil HR Director]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 13:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55762</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[Exactly, Suzanne!  Keep your &quot;business&quot; out of our business, and we&#039;ll stay out of your &quot;business&quot;.  It&#039;s pretty simple.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly, Suzanne!  Keep your &#8220;business&#8221; out of our business, and we&#8217;ll stay out of your &#8220;business&#8221;.  It&#8217;s pretty simple.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55748</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55748</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55728&quot;&gt;Anonymous&lt;/a&gt;.

I would never, not in a million years, ask. As long as they keep  it out of the office, no one knows, and no one cares.

It&#039;s only when it comes into the office that it&#039;s a problem. So if you&#039;re having an affair, whoop-te-do, until your wife starts calling, your girlfriend starts showing up in tears and the whole drama explodes on my doorstep. Then it&#039;s &quot;don&#039;t let the door hit you on the way out.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55728">Anonymous</a>.</p>
<p>I would never, not in a million years, ask. As long as they keep  it out of the office, no one knows, and no one cares.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s only when it comes into the office that it&#8217;s a problem. So if you&#8217;re having an affair, whoop-te-do, until your wife starts calling, your girlfriend starts showing up in tears and the whole drama explodes on my doorstep. Then it&#8217;s &#8220;don&#8217;t let the door hit you on the way out.&#8221;</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55747</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 05:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55747</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55720&quot;&gt;Joe&lt;/a&gt;.

I am not a fan of bosses digging into their employees private lives, which I said at the beginning. But when it starts to interfere at the office, then yes, I think it&#039;s reasonable to have consequences at the office.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55720">Joe</a>.</p>
<p>I am not a fan of bosses digging into their employees private lives, which I said at the beginning. But when it starts to interfere at the office, then yes, I think it&#8217;s reasonable to have consequences at the office.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Jeff M		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55730</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55730</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55691&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

Probably those people that put razor blades in apples on Halloween.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55691">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>Probably those people that put razor blades in apples on Halloween.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
		<item>
		<title>
		By: Jeff M		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55729</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeff M]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=2782#comment-55729</guid>

					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55710&quot;&gt;Lora&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not saying there aren&#039;t any out there, just that it&#039;ll be a long time before we&#039;ll need to update the policy manual.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/04/5-reasons-you-need-to-be-the-morality-police.html#comment-55710">Lora</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not saying there aren&#8217;t any out there, just that it&#8217;ll be a long time before we&#8217;ll need to update the policy manual.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
		
			</item>
	</channel>
</rss>
