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		By: dg		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[dg]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jan 2014 04:18:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[32 interviews and no offer?  I guess one can look at it one way or another. That other way is to consider whether one would want to work for an organization that is not able to make decisions in a reasonable period of time.  Being a leading edge company that is the envy of everyone in it&#039;s industry means being decisive, smart, informed, and well managed.  32 interviews for one position?  Honestly, does that sound like a well managed organization?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>32 interviews and no offer?  I guess one can look at it one way or another. That other way is to consider whether one would want to work for an organization that is not able to make decisions in a reasonable period of time.  Being a leading edge company that is the envy of everyone in it&#8217;s industry means being decisive, smart, informed, and well managed.  32 interviews for one position?  Honestly, does that sound like a well managed organization?</p>
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		By: JB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-97567&quot;&gt;TimeClick&lt;/a&gt;.

HR staff, like everyone else now, is most concerned about preserving their own jobs.  If you have stupid upper management and a shady HR head you wind up with 32 interviews as a company standard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-97567">TimeClick</a>.</p>
<p>HR staff, like everyone else now, is most concerned about preserving their own jobs.  If you have stupid upper management and a shady HR head you wind up with 32 interviews as a company standard.</p>
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		By: TimeClick		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TimeClick]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 17:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-97316&quot;&gt;JB&lt;/a&gt;.

Isn&#039;t it ironic that HR, who should be concerned with aligning benefits with corporate goals, should have their benefit (job security) aligned with such wasteful practices as excessive, futile rounds of the &quot;hiring&quot; process. If this is truly the motivation, that company is indeed in a sad state of affairs.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-97316">JB</a>.</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t it ironic that HR, who should be concerned with aligning benefits with corporate goals, should have their benefit (job security) aligned with such wasteful practices as excessive, futile rounds of the &#8220;hiring&#8221; process. If this is truly the motivation, that company is indeed in a sad state of affairs.</p>
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		By: JB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Dec 2013 06:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve come to realize over the past 5 or so years that 80% of the reason for the longggggg drawn out hiring process has nothing to do with vetting a candidate, but all about job security for the individuals involved.  It creates a sense of job security in this shaky market for the HR department to persuade a company that they MUST have this ridiculously cumbersome process so that 18 HR reps are required to carry it out.  It&#039;s even better if no one is hired because then they get to do it all again.  When a company is serious about hiring it&#039;s pretty obvious.  When they are jerking you around you wind up with 32 interviews.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve come to realize over the past 5 or so years that 80% of the reason for the longggggg drawn out hiring process has nothing to do with vetting a candidate, but all about job security for the individuals involved.  It creates a sense of job security in this shaky market for the HR department to persuade a company that they MUST have this ridiculously cumbersome process so that 18 HR reps are required to carry it out.  It&#8217;s even better if no one is hired because then they get to do it all again.  When a company is serious about hiring it&#8217;s pretty obvious.  When they are jerking you around you wind up with 32 interviews.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 15:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My friend and 3 others just got rescinded for jobs going to Germany 5 days before he and his family were scheduled to fly there.  He gave up his apartment, sold all furniture, his car, took their kid out of school. Married his GF since they don&#039;t have insurance for sig others. Other guys sold houses, uprooted lives, got married, sent stuff to Germany. They had contracts and were going through visa process, then they each got a text &#039;don&#039;t come&#039; 5 days before their flights. They are suing.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My friend and 3 others just got rescinded for jobs going to Germany 5 days before he and his family were scheduled to fly there.  He gave up his apartment, sold all furniture, his car, took their kid out of school. Married his GF since they don&#8217;t have insurance for sig others. Other guys sold houses, uprooted lives, got married, sent stuff to Germany. They had contracts and were going through visa process, then they each got a text &#8216;don&#8217;t come&#8217; 5 days before their flights. They are suing.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96809&quot;&gt;Elizabeth West&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;d like to think I would have too, but the thing is, they never say, &quot;We&#039;d like you to have 32 interviews.&quot; They say, &quot;Can you come in one more time?&quot; or &quot;We&#039;d like you to speak with Jane.&quot; And by that time you&#039;ve already invested so much time and effort into this thing and it&#039;s just *one* more...

It&#039;s so unethical.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96809">Elizabeth West</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think I would have too, but the thing is, they never say, &#8220;We&#8217;d like you to have 32 interviews.&#8221; They say, &#8220;Can you come in one more time?&#8221; or &#8220;We&#8217;d like you to speak with Jane.&#8221; And by that time you&#8217;ve already invested so much time and effort into this thing and it&#8217;s just *one* more&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s so unethical.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96149&quot;&gt;Diana Schneidman&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, well, the title fits, unfortunately. HR can do great things. Honestly, it can. But, things like this drive me nuts and they do damage to everyone else who works hard.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96149">Diana Schneidman</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, well, the title fits, unfortunately. HR can do great things. Honestly, it can. But, things like this drive me nuts and they do damage to everyone else who works hard.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Dec 2013 08:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96109&quot;&gt;David Donley&lt;/a&gt;.

I honestly don&#039;t understand why companies don&#039;t see what terrible damage they do to their reputation when their recruiting practices are so awful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2013/12/are-your-hiring-tactics-unethical.html#comment-96109">David Donley</a>.</p>
<p>I honestly don&#8217;t understand why companies don&#8217;t see what terrible damage they do to their reputation when their recruiting practices are so awful.</p>
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		By: Elizabeth West		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Dec 2013 18:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[WOW.  

I&#039;m...speechless.  I think I would have drawn the line at five.  A company that can&#039;t make a decision after four or five interviews (and even that seems excessive to me) isn&#039;t one I want to work for.  I can only imagine what requisitioning a pen would entail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m&#8230;speechless.  I think I would have drawn the line at five.  A company that can&#8217;t make a decision after four or five interviews (and even that seems excessive to me) isn&#8217;t one I want to work for.  I can only imagine what requisitioning a pen would entail.</p>
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		By: Diana Schneidman		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Diana Schneidman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Dec 2013 16:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Suzanne,

My favorite line is “candidates were stupid not to understand how hiring really works.”

That really encapsulates the fundamental problem with HR: HR is never wrong. It’s everyone else who is wrong because they expect better from HR.

You were so wise to choose the title of Evil HR Lady. So appropriate to the industry.

-Diana]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Suzanne,</p>
<p>My favorite line is “candidates were stupid not to understand how hiring really works.”</p>
<p>That really encapsulates the fundamental problem with HR: HR is never wrong. It’s everyone else who is wrong because they expect better from HR.</p>
<p>You were so wise to choose the title of Evil HR Lady. So appropriate to the industry.</p>
<p>-Diana</p>
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