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		By: Mae		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mae]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[Do you ever say anything positive about women on this site?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do you ever say anything positive about women on this site?</p>
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		By: Chris		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Chris]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Feb 2014 04:08:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m flashing back to a study I read (wish I could remember where) that found that where both parents work full time, the woman worked double the hours of her partner.  Wonder if anyone&#039;s considered this matter recently?  I know at home both my husband and I work full time, yet I seem to be expected to cook (95% of the time); clean (95% of the time) and so on.  He feeds the dogs,cat and ducks.  This takes me 10 minutes, max.  I also mow the lawn.  Not quite seeing the balance here...]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m flashing back to a study I read (wish I could remember where) that found that where both parents work full time, the woman worked double the hours of her partner.  Wonder if anyone&#8217;s considered this matter recently?  I know at home both my husband and I work full time, yet I seem to be expected to cook (95% of the time); clean (95% of the time) and so on.  He feeds the dogs,cat and ducks.  This takes me 10 minutes, max.  I also mow the lawn.  Not quite seeing the balance here&#8230;</p>
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		By: Rachael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 20:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112729&quot;&gt;Ann O&#039;Nemity&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes!  Exactly! I don&#039;t speak for anyone else&#039;s husband, but mine thinks that playing with the children and supervising them is my leisure time.  He doesn&#039;t understand that supervising the children is not the same as having time by myself.  (Yet when he wants to watch the game or be on the computer he expects this time to be childfree)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112729">Ann O&#8217;Nemity</a>.</p>
<p>Yes!  Exactly! I don&#8217;t speak for anyone else&#8217;s husband, but mine thinks that playing with the children and supervising them is my leisure time.  He doesn&#8217;t understand that supervising the children is not the same as having time by myself.  (Yet when he wants to watch the game or be on the computer he expects this time to be childfree)</p>
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		By: J.B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112729&quot;&gt;Ann O&#039;Nemity&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, and also the age of the child(ren).]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112729">Ann O&#8217;Nemity</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, and also the age of the child(ren).</p>
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		By: J.B.		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[J.B.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Feb 2014 17:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112688&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

I would imagine that many of the people who read and comment on your blog are employed and have some idea of what paid work entails. And talking about averages is a fallacy because people do not experience their lives as an average. 

My unofficial survey a number of women who work the same number of hours for pay as their husbands read the original article and said &quot;that&#039;s my life!&quot;

The fact that many men contribute to the functioning of the household is a huge advance over 50 years ago. On an individual family level it will never feel entirely even but you have to negotiate what works for your family.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2014/02/if-men-and-women-work-the-same-number-of-hours-what-is-so-unfair.html#comment-112688">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>I would imagine that many of the people who read and comment on your blog are employed and have some idea of what paid work entails. And talking about averages is a fallacy because people do not experience their lives as an average. </p>
<p>My unofficial survey a number of women who work the same number of hours for pay as their husbands read the original article and said &#8220;that&#8217;s my life!&#8221;</p>
<p>The fact that many men contribute to the functioning of the household is a huge advance over 50 years ago. On an individual family level it will never feel entirely even but you have to negotiate what works for your family.</p>
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		By: Ann O'Nemity		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann O'Nemity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 16:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[One thing not yet mentioned is leisure time. If you look at the original BLS study, it indicates that husbands spend more time working, eating and on leisure time than wives do, while wives spend more time in every other category than husbands do. I wonder if the imbalance in leisure time is really what&#039;s causing the feelings of unfairness.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing not yet mentioned is leisure time. If you look at the original BLS study, it indicates that husbands spend more time working, eating and on leisure time than wives do, while wives spend more time in every other category than husbands do. I wonder if the imbalance in leisure time is really what&#8217;s causing the feelings of unfairness.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Feb 2014 08:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[All of your arguments rest on the idea that it is ONLY household work that is stressful. And that&#039;s where the big fallacy comes in. Paid work is also stressful. And since men work more paid hours than women work, we can pretty logically conclude that they have more paid stress filled ours than women do. 

According to this study, it pretty much balances out. Of course, it doesn&#039;t balance in every marriage, but overall, it does.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of your arguments rest on the idea that it is ONLY household work that is stressful. And that&#8217;s where the big fallacy comes in. Paid work is also stressful. And since men work more paid hours than women work, we can pretty logically conclude that they have more paid stress filled ours than women do. </p>
<p>According to this study, it pretty much balances out. Of course, it doesn&#8217;t balance in every marriage, but overall, it does.</p>
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		By: Ivory		</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 18:04:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I think the situation is problematic if 1) the primary caretaker of kids/household can&#039;t ask for help and expect to get immediate and enthusiastic cooperation and 2) the non-primary doesn&#039;t at least take some initiative in household tasks and follow through to deliver on commitments as promised.  Women stop asking for help if they get push back - either in the form of resentment or forgetfulness.

For example, my husband &quot;does the laundry&quot; but only if I remind him that it needs to be done, remind him to change the loads from washer to dryer, remind him to fold it and remind him to put it away.  He doesn&#039;t do the task if he&#039;s tired or doesn&#039;t feel like it or does half of it and leaves laundry everywhere which leaves me and my kids running out of clothes at times and frequently inhabiting a living room with half of our clothes piled on the sofa.  Years of begging have not resulted in his being able to complete this task on a schedule or to finish it completely in a reasonable amount of time (wash everything once a week is my standard of &quot;reasonable&quot;).  From his perspective, I am a whining nagging pain in the ass.  I am also someone who has no pants to wear to work tomorrow which I have to say, makes me a little cranky so he&#039;s not far from wrong in his assessment.  If he followed through on work projects the way he follows through on laundry, he would have been fired long ago.

Immediate and enthusiastic help is a must if you want to have a happy partner.  Follow through on chores that you &quot;own&quot; with some sort of sense of personal responsibility and on an agreed upon time schedule is also required if you want your primary caretakers (who are mostly women) to feel supported and relaxed.   I would also add - don&#039;t ever ask your primary caretaker partner to do an additional task if they are already engaged in a time sensitive people-care task.  Get your own rear off the couch and take care of it.  Even if you are tired and don&#039;t feel like it - chances are she is tired and doesn&#039;t feel like it either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the situation is problematic if 1) the primary caretaker of kids/household can&#8217;t ask for help and expect to get immediate and enthusiastic cooperation and 2) the non-primary doesn&#8217;t at least take some initiative in household tasks and follow through to deliver on commitments as promised.  Women stop asking for help if they get push back &#8211; either in the form of resentment or forgetfulness.</p>
<p>For example, my husband &#8220;does the laundry&#8221; but only if I remind him that it needs to be done, remind him to change the loads from washer to dryer, remind him to fold it and remind him to put it away.  He doesn&#8217;t do the task if he&#8217;s tired or doesn&#8217;t feel like it or does half of it and leaves laundry everywhere which leaves me and my kids running out of clothes at times and frequently inhabiting a living room with half of our clothes piled on the sofa.  Years of begging have not resulted in his being able to complete this task on a schedule or to finish it completely in a reasonable amount of time (wash everything once a week is my standard of &#8220;reasonable&#8221;).  From his perspective, I am a whining nagging pain in the ass.  I am also someone who has no pants to wear to work tomorrow which I have to say, makes me a little cranky so he&#8217;s not far from wrong in his assessment.  If he followed through on work projects the way he follows through on laundry, he would have been fired long ago.</p>
<p>Immediate and enthusiastic help is a must if you want to have a happy partner.  Follow through on chores that you &#8220;own&#8221; with some sort of sense of personal responsibility and on an agreed upon time schedule is also required if you want your primary caretakers (who are mostly women) to feel supported and relaxed.   I would also add &#8211; don&#8217;t ever ask your primary caretaker partner to do an additional task if they are already engaged in a time sensitive people-care task.  Get your own rear off the couch and take care of it.  Even if you are tired and don&#8217;t feel like it &#8211; chances are she is tired and doesn&#8217;t feel like it either.</p>
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		By: Rachael		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 16:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I haven&#039;t read the study, but I think that the biggest problem that women deal with is the lack of respect and acknowledgement about unpaid work.  I work full time and am expected to do most of the childcare and housework because I am the woman.  I am constantly required to multitask and try and get mulitple things done at once with a clingy toddler and child WHILE MY HUSBAND IS HOME.  My husband sees things that aren&#039;t done and insists that each task only takes &quot;a couple of seconds&quot;, but he fails to see the bigger picture of how much work each &quot;couple of seconds&quot; amounts to in reality.  Yes, it only takes a couple of seconds to wipe down the sink, but he fails to see the other &quot;quick seconds&quot; that I spent with the mountain of tasks that I have to perform.  Each small task that a caregiver performs is in itself very easy and not hard.  However, it becomes difficult when you have a bunch of &quot;easy tasks&quot; that need to be done at the same time. For instance, the baby needs to be fed at the same time the toddler needs to be dressed.  Somehow I have to get this done at the same time while he is standing around? At least at work you have coworkers who assist you in tasks.  This is why I complain.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I haven&#8217;t read the study, but I think that the biggest problem that women deal with is the lack of respect and acknowledgement about unpaid work.  I work full time and am expected to do most of the childcare and housework because I am the woman.  I am constantly required to multitask and try and get mulitple things done at once with a clingy toddler and child WHILE MY HUSBAND IS HOME.  My husband sees things that aren&#8217;t done and insists that each task only takes &#8220;a couple of seconds&#8221;, but he fails to see the bigger picture of how much work each &#8220;couple of seconds&#8221; amounts to in reality.  Yes, it only takes a couple of seconds to wipe down the sink, but he fails to see the other &#8220;quick seconds&#8221; that I spent with the mountain of tasks that I have to perform.  Each small task that a caregiver performs is in itself very easy and not hard.  However, it becomes difficult when you have a bunch of &#8220;easy tasks&#8221; that need to be done at the same time. For instance, the baby needs to be fed at the same time the toddler needs to be dressed.  Somehow I have to get this done at the same time while he is standing around? At least at work you have coworkers who assist you in tasks.  This is why I complain.</p>
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		By: bellisaurius		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[bellisaurius]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Feb 2014 11:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[My first thought on reading the article was, &quot;Why don&#039;t you ask your husband to put the kids to sleep?&quot; More specifically, it sounds like the problem isn&#039;t the workload, but lack of communication about desired tasks and need for room... surprising for someone who &#039;has the finger on the pulse of the house&#039;. 

There may be some level of responsibility on the man to recognize when the wife is overwhelmed (I have a three month and three year old...), but I&#039;m generally looking for something to do, and the things that come up to my mind most often are things like dishes, picking up, etc..]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My first thought on reading the article was, &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you ask your husband to put the kids to sleep?&#8221; More specifically, it sounds like the problem isn&#8217;t the workload, but lack of communication about desired tasks and need for room&#8230; surprising for someone who &#8216;has the finger on the pulse of the house&#8217;. </p>
<p>There may be some level of responsibility on the man to recognize when the wife is overwhelmed (I have a three month and three year old&#8230;), but I&#8217;m generally looking for something to do, and the things that come up to my mind most often are things like dishes, picking up, etc..</p>
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