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		By: Jessica (the celt)		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204850</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jessica (the celt)]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2015 00:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204508&quot;&gt;fposte&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks for this notice, fposte! I was wondering why I couldn&#039;t see any of the information people were talking about and there didn&#039;t seem to be a link to a separate article either.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204508">fposte</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks for this notice, fposte! I was wondering why I couldn&#8217;t see any of the information people were talking about and there didn&#8217;t seem to be a link to a separate article either.</p>
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		By: fposte		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[fposte]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 21:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[FYI--on Firefox for me, the letter stops after &quot;My performance evaluation?&quot; while Chrome allows me to see the whole letter.  If that&#039;s happening to other people, it may be coloring their read too.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI&#8211;on Firefox for me, the letter stops after &#8220;My performance evaluation?&#8221; while Chrome allows me to see the whole letter.  If that&#8217;s happening to other people, it may be coloring their read too.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 08:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204491&quot;&gt;Daniel&lt;/a&gt;.

I disagree that this type of issue should be left out of a performance appraisal. Performance is the whole package. If you&#039;re doing something which is causing division in the department, it should be addressed.

Now, of course, I don&#039;t ever think a manager should wait until the performance review to spring something on someone, but if what she (and he!) are doing IS inappropriate, it can definitely go into a performance review.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204491">Daniel</a>.</p>
<p>I disagree that this type of issue should be left out of a performance appraisal. Performance is the whole package. If you&#8217;re doing something which is causing division in the department, it should be addressed.</p>
<p>Now, of course, I don&#8217;t ever think a manager should wait until the performance review to spring something on someone, but if what she (and he!) are doing IS inappropriate, it can definitely go into a performance review.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204490&quot;&gt;Irene&lt;/a&gt;.

I totally agree that the boss needs to take a hardline about gossip.

I&#039;m not sure looks make as much difference as attitude. I&#039;ve worked with some stunningly gorgeous women, none of whom ever had anyone say anything negative about them in this type of way.

The people who I have worked with that had everyone&#039;s tongues wagging were very average looking, but doing all the things mentioned above. And, FWIW, i don&#039;t think they were having an affair either, I think they were just really good friends.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204490">Irene</a>.</p>
<p>I totally agree that the boss needs to take a hardline about gossip.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure looks make as much difference as attitude. I&#8217;ve worked with some stunningly gorgeous women, none of whom ever had anyone say anything negative about them in this type of way.</p>
<p>The people who I have worked with that had everyone&#8217;s tongues wagging were very average looking, but doing all the things mentioned above. And, FWIW, i don&#8217;t think they were having an affair either, I think they were just really good friends.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 07:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204496&quot;&gt;Alexander Sanchez&lt;/a&gt;.

From the letter, there&#039;s nothing to indicate that termination is warranted. I think you&#039;re reading way too much into it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204496">Alexander Sanchez</a>.</p>
<p>From the letter, there&#8217;s nothing to indicate that termination is warranted. I think you&#8217;re reading way too much into it.</p>
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		By: Anonymous		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jan 2015 00:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204496&quot;&gt;Alexander Sanchez&lt;/a&gt;.

If you&#039;re I&#039;m favour of termination it would have to be both of them. Is that what you&#039;re saying?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204496">Alexander Sanchez</a>.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re I&#8217;m favour of termination it would have to be both of them. Is that what you&#8217;re saying?</p>
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		By: Vel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204497&quot;&gt;Vel&lt;/a&gt;.

To clarify the two occasions were separate and in the case of the relationship I was and on peer level.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204497">Vel</a>.</p>
<p>To clarify the two occasions were separate and in the case of the relationship I was and on peer level.</p>
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		By: Vel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 22:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204494&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

I would say that you are making a few assumptions. I have had this type of thing levelled at me and to say they go quiet because they are talking about &#039;others&#039; isn&#039;t an objective statement.  She could or he could be using each other for mentoring or personal confidences/support and would fairly go quiet when others entered.  I wouldn&#039;t want my private concerns about how to improve myself bandied about by co-workers. 

To be clear on the one occasion this happened to me I was providing standard support to a distressed trainee (going through divorce).  On the other occasion I had already addressed management to advise them that I had formed a long term relationship with the male (both of us did this together) the accusation came afterward and was handled poorly by management and I was definitely the one held MORE accountable.  Even though we were working on 3 projects at the time of the accusation and did not engage in ANY PDA nor work behind closed doors where people were locked out.

I see little evidence for the deductions you made as having been in similar circumstance before I know I behaved in a professional manner.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204494">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>I would say that you are making a few assumptions. I have had this type of thing levelled at me and to say they go quiet because they are talking about &#8216;others&#8217; isn&#8217;t an objective statement.  She could or he could be using each other for mentoring or personal confidences/support and would fairly go quiet when others entered.  I wouldn&#8217;t want my private concerns about how to improve myself bandied about by co-workers. </p>
<p>To be clear on the one occasion this happened to me I was providing standard support to a distressed trainee (going through divorce).  On the other occasion I had already addressed management to advise them that I had formed a long term relationship with the male (both of us did this together) the accusation came afterward and was handled poorly by management and I was definitely the one held MORE accountable.  Even though we were working on 3 projects at the time of the accusation and did not engage in ANY PDA nor work behind closed doors where people were locked out.</p>
<p>I see little evidence for the deductions you made as having been in similar circumstance before I know I behaved in a professional manner.</p>
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		By: Alexander Sanchez		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Alexander Sanchez]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Frankly, I don&#039;t like siding with management but here in this situation it is all too common in the workplace for employees to make partnerships by way way of sex favoritism so they can move up. The employee behavior here is common and this is specially so in Civil Service. She is very close to having an affair with someone who is a step higher but not a supervisor could mean a Lead or just some one on the upward mobility path and she wants to hang on to him for (1) she likes him and (2) she wants to move up with him. This is much too common and I am glad management is handling it before it really gets out of hand... by the way she is creating a hostile work environment.  Funny she attempts to turn the accusation around... typical.  Terminate this person, she is poison in the work place.  If she is not having an affair at work she is certainly giving the appearance of one... her coworkers are witnesses against her.  Terminate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, I don&#8217;t like siding with management but here in this situation it is all too common in the workplace for employees to make partnerships by way way of sex favoritism so they can move up. The employee behavior here is common and this is specially so in Civil Service. She is very close to having an affair with someone who is a step higher but not a supervisor could mean a Lead or just some one on the upward mobility path and she wants to hang on to him for (1) she likes him and (2) she wants to move up with him. This is much too common and I am glad management is handling it before it really gets out of hand&#8230; by the way she is creating a hostile work environment.  Funny she attempts to turn the accusation around&#8230; typical.  Terminate this person, she is poison in the work place.  If she is not having an affair at work she is certainly giving the appearance of one&#8230; her coworkers are witnesses against her.  Terminate.</p>
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		By: Daniel		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Daniel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2015 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204494&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

Reading between the lines, it would seem to me that the organization DOES have a non-fraternization policy and if there is potential for crossing the lines into religious-hostility, a stop needs to be put immediately.  And if I&#039;m reading the lines correctly, senior management would be well within their right to put it on her performance evaluation.
This reeks and I would advise to put it aside for the best of the group.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/01/employee-accused-of-having-an-affair-with-a-coworker.html#comment-204494">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>Reading between the lines, it would seem to me that the organization DOES have a non-fraternization policy and if there is potential for crossing the lines into religious-hostility, a stop needs to be put immediately.  And if I&#8217;m reading the lines correctly, senior management would be well within their right to put it on her performance evaluation.<br />
This reeks and I would advise to put it aside for the best of the group.</p>
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