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		By: Slippy		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206185&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

What the article was trying to highlight was the working conditions so people would know if they wanted to work there.  Doctors and finance workers work long hours and it is pretty common knowledge that the days are long and the pressure can be intense.  It is not quite so obvious that Silicon Valley, in particular Amazon, is the same way.  Google has its employees work long hours but insists on mutual respect between employees; which is apparently very lacking at Amazon.  Also like Observer said, if they are treating their white-collar this way then the warehouse guys probably have it a lot worse.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206185">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>What the article was trying to highlight was the working conditions so people would know if they wanted to work there.  Doctors and finance workers work long hours and it is pretty common knowledge that the days are long and the pressure can be intense.  It is not quite so obvious that Silicon Valley, in particular Amazon, is the same way.  Google has its employees work long hours but insists on mutual respect between employees; which is apparently very lacking at Amazon.  Also like Observer said, if they are treating their white-collar this way then the warehouse guys probably have it a lot worse.</p>
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		By: Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2015 00:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206185&quot;&gt;Evil HR Lady&lt;/a&gt;.

The thing that really disturbs about the stuff in the NYT is that it just lends support to the much worse stuff about how lower level workers (ie warehouse staff) are treated. These folks really don&#039;t have too many choices in most cases. The folks who worked in the warehouse that was hitting 100deg and had an ambulance stationed at the door didn&#039;t stay there because they liked the environment. They stayed because it paid more than welfare by a few pennies.

The guys who are running the funds that 401k  money tends to go into are making A LOT more - and are working in far better environments. No fund manager is being getting written up for taking too long to go to the bathroom, or not using the one nearest his station. Nor are these people working in 100deg temperature without even a a water bottle.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206185">Evil HR Lady</a>.</p>
<p>The thing that really disturbs about the stuff in the NYT is that it just lends support to the much worse stuff about how lower level workers (ie warehouse staff) are treated. These folks really don&#8217;t have too many choices in most cases. The folks who worked in the warehouse that was hitting 100deg and had an ambulance stationed at the door didn&#8217;t stay there because they liked the environment. They stayed because it paid more than welfare by a few pennies.</p>
<p>The guys who are running the funds that 401k  money tends to go into are making A LOT more &#8211; and are working in far better environments. No fund manager is being getting written up for taking too long to go to the bathroom, or not using the one nearest his station. Nor are these people working in 100deg temperature without even a a water bottle.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:51:58 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206184&quot;&gt;Elizabeth West&lt;/a&gt;.

Do you have the same reservations about going to doctors? They go through far worse times in their training.

What about contributing to their 401k? You know that people that control those investments work 90 hour weeks, right?

I am not interested in working in that type of environment and I think it&#039;s not a good one, but i have no problem if someone else wants to do it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2015/08/how-far-you-can-push-employees-without-resorting-to-the-amazon-way.html#comment-206184">Elizabeth West</a>.</p>
<p>Do you have the same reservations about going to doctors? They go through far worse times in their training.</p>
<p>What about contributing to their 401k? You know that people that control those investments work 90 hour weeks, right?</p>
<p>I am not interested in working in that type of environment and I think it&#8217;s not a good one, but i have no problem if someone else wants to do it.</p>
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		By: Elizabeth West		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elizabeth West]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2015 14:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[+ a zillion.  

I&#039;m torn over Amazon; on the one hand, I don&#039;t really want to support a company that treats its workers like disposable crap (and don&#039;t get me started on the whole author thing).  On the other hand, I like the services they offer and as a customer, I&#039;ve had very few problems with them.  

Grrrr...if only corporations would listen to you, Suzanne!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>+ a zillion.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m torn over Amazon; on the one hand, I don&#8217;t really want to support a company that treats its workers like disposable crap (and don&#8217;t get me started on the whole author thing).  On the other hand, I like the services they offer and as a customer, I&#8217;ve had very few problems with them.  </p>
<p>Grrrr&#8230;if only corporations would listen to you, Suzanne!</p>
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