Comments on: Exempt Employees with Same Titles and Different Rules https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html Everything to make HR better Thu, 06 Jul 2017 09:37:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.1.4 By: Vicki https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207935 Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:40:13 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207935 This letter is just one of many that explain all of the reasons why I really really really loathe the idea of “bosses”.

]]> By: Vicki https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207934 Mon, 05 Sep 2016 02:38:53 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207934 In reply to Anon.

Anon (ouch)

Did you read the letter? The boss won;t say what time she wants the LW to be there. “Months ago I asked her to provide in writing, what is considered late for exempt employees and was informed that the company follows the FLSA standards for exempt employees latenesses.”

There are no such standards. There is no policy.

“You’re late.”
“What time do you want me to be here?”
“Look it up.”

]]> By: Abby https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207926 Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:57:22 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207926 In reply to J.B..

But also, if your boss wants you to be at work by 9 regardless of how late you work, that is just fine. You are exempt which does mean you get some flexibility but also means you don’t whine when you have to stay late.

]]> By: Abby https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207925 Wed, 31 Aug 2016 14:56:17 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207925 In reply to Anon.

I agree. It makes you look weird that you are insisting that there be something written down about when you are to come into work. And, I would get frustrated quickly with an employee who seems to be nitpicking about what time to get in.

Yes, it would be easier if she directly said, you must be at work ready to work at 9:00 am and no later than 9:05. But she has said that you are late at 9:30 and that is a problem. Why won’t you just get to work on time?

Additionally, even if you are exempt, you can be expected to be at work at a certain time and that isn’t unreasonable. Being exempt doesn’t mean that you get to do whatever you want.

]]> By: J.B. https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207904 Mon, 29 Aug 2016 13:57:24 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207904 In reply to Jeanne.

Getting specifics would be good. And nailing down not just start times but leave times, in the context of day to day tasks. If your boss wants you to come in earlier then you can leave earlier, that’s one thing. If there is some specific reason you stay until 6:30 – 7 (say processing some paperwork that came up during the day) that won’t change with an earlier start time, you should discuss that and see if some of that work can be rearranged between coworkers.

If it does progress to disciplinary action then probably you’d get items in writing at that point. Better to address it head on, hopefully that could reduce the overall adversarialness.

]]> By: the gold digger https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207897 Sun, 28 Aug 2016 16:51:30 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207897 In reply to Jeanne.

She did say that “the clinic hours need to be covered every day,” which to me means being there when the clinic opens.

]]> By: Nauman Ahmad https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207891 Fri, 26 Aug 2016 22:16:54 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207891 Wonderful post and shared the great fact in our corporate walls. Please keep posting such great information and guidelines.

Best Regards,
Nauman Ahmad
Founder & CEO @ PeopleQlik
http://www.peopleqlik.com

]]> By: Jeanne https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207890 Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:36:15 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207890 This all sounds frustrating. However, I don’t think there’s anything illegal going on here. Bosses are allowed to be unfair, to be mean, whatever. Some companies don’t care if that happens. HR is going to give your boss lots of freedom here. They are not that interested in helping you. I think the advice Evil HR Lady gave you here is good. Try coming in regularly at an earlier hour and see how your boss treats you. I suspect your hours are not the root of the problem but you need to do this first to find out anything.

]]> By: Natasha https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207889 Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:20:44 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207889 Great post! I have personally dealt with a similar issue. Your suggestion of getting things in writing via email is excellent and so important.

]]> By: Jeanne https://www.evilhrlady.org/2016/08/exempt-employees-with-same-titles-and-different-rules.html#comment-207888 Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:12:20 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4020#comment-207888 In reply to the gold digger.

The starting times in writing seems like too much confrontation. What I don’t get is why the boss can’t seem to say what time she wants her to start. The boss should say “I want you to be here by 8:45.”

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