Comments on: Does an Exempt Employee Need Permission to Leave the Office? https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html Everything to make HR better Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:21:48 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: the gold digger https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html#comment-210013 Tue, 12 Sep 2017 16:21:48 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4512#comment-210013 In reply to Maria Rose.

Rather than penalizing, HR should send or post of exactly what is the excepted management of hours during certain time periods of the week as some workplaces need employees to be available for work at key business needs. These times are not negotiable to skip without required notice.

Yes, but “required notice” doesn’t accommodate emergencies. Scheduling a six-month cleaning? Sure. Make sure it’s before 10:00 or after 2:00 if 10-2 are the core hours.

But – a broken tooth really can’t wait. I don’t think the employee did anything wrong. The new manager was completely unreasonable. It’s that kind of petty behavior that gets people looking for new jobs.

]]> By: Mr 4th-Right https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html#comment-210010 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:15:09 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4512#comment-210010 Managers can and do act like egotistical overlords. Respond to childish tantrums as you would any 3-year-old’s: point out that your actions were (presumably) consist with the employee handbook, and that you’re perfectly willing to use any real-time mechanism for dealing with medical emergencies they may institute. Demands for prior approval in response to unforeseen medical events is merely evidence that you’re working for a jerk. Even when inmates are running the asylum, employees need to act like adults.

]]> By: Julie https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html#comment-210008 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:40:17 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4512#comment-210008 In this situation, I think the manager is a bit out of line. Yes, employees should be at work when expected and should ask for time off when they need to leave, HOWEVER, in the case of a medical emergency when the manager is not available, a little lee way should be given to the employee. Especially one that does not have “emergencies” or take sick days very often. Who is really going to make their employee stay at work with a broken tooth (or other emergency)? That doesn’t exactly endear the employee to the manager or the company.

I’m sure the new manager is just trying to establish their presence and power (so to speak) and just went about it wrong. The best thing is for the employee to brush it off as this and move on. If the manager continues to micromanage or becomes difficult, then a trip to HR may be warranted. Until then, document the situation and let it go.

]]> By: Maria Rose https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html#comment-210006 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:46:11 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4512#comment-210006 I am not necessarily of the opinion that the manager was wrong as perhaps the reason for new management was problems like this. After all it was an enforcement of policy of informing those who needed to be informed. Those people don’t need to be informed via a face to face message but I am sure that all can be contacted via some form.
I question the fact mentioned that no supervisor was available at this specific time. To me, that’s an excuse to cover lack of sending notice to supervisors. If this person has been working as long as stated, then they know all the rules and all the ways around the rules.
The main reason, this person is annoyed, is that they have to justify their time away from work during a time considered work time. I understand that exempt personnel are paid a set salary based on meeting work goals not based on hours worked but with the changes made to definition of exempt personnel and the chances of the employers having to pay overtime pay, these employees are going to have their time spent working checked.
Rather than penalizing, HR should send or post of exactly what is the excepted management of hours during certain time periods of the week as some workplaces need employees to be available for work at key business needs. These times are not negotiable to skip without required notice.
I also know that long term exempt personnel as quite used to “creating ” their work schedule regardless of work needs and are often absent when work requires everyone on board.
If anything blame the new changes made to exempt employee pay and not enough enforcement until someone slips up.

]]> By: Patrice Mitsos https://www.evilhrlady.org/2017/09/does-an-exempt-employee-need-permission-to-leave-the-office.html#comment-210004 Mon, 11 Sep 2017 12:26:54 +0000 https://www.evilhrlady.org/?p=4512#comment-210004 I only want to read other’s comments. Why is it forcing me to make one?

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