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		By: Layla		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Layla]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jun 2018 03:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Re: complaint 1
&quot;They apply to jobs which they are clearly not suitable for.&quot;

This is a bogus complaint.

When I was an employee, I would apply for jobs that, according to the posting, I was qualified for. Most of the time, I heard nothing back. Sometimes, I would interview only to discover the job was not as advertised.

I call BS on complaint 5 too
&quot;They keep applying for jobs despite being in the final interview stage with a client.&quot;

Most employers don&#039;t give you any closure until after the person they decide on is sitting in the cubicle, if at all! 

Can you imagine sitting around waiting on the phone to ring, believing you&#039;re going to get an interview or worse having had a good phone screen, 1st interview, 2nd interview, thinking you have a job, then find out you&#039;ve wasted your time?

I don&#039;t have to imagine. Been there, done that.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: complaint 1<br />
&#8220;They apply to jobs which they are clearly not suitable for.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a bogus complaint.</p>
<p>When I was an employee, I would apply for jobs that, according to the posting, I was qualified for. Most of the time, I heard nothing back. Sometimes, I would interview only to discover the job was not as advertised.</p>
<p>I call BS on complaint 5 too<br />
&#8220;They keep applying for jobs despite being in the final interview stage with a client.&#8221;</p>
<p>Most employers don&#8217;t give you any closure until after the person they decide on is sitting in the cubicle, if at all! </p>
<p>Can you imagine sitting around waiting on the phone to ring, believing you&#8217;re going to get an interview or worse having had a good phone screen, 1st interview, 2nd interview, thinking you have a job, then find out you&#8217;ve wasted your time?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have to imagine. Been there, done that.</p>
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		By: LTMG		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LTMG]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Mar 2018 11:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Neither recruiters nor job hunters are very good at telling each other their needs and expectations.  Little wonder there is usually negative tension between them.

Recruiters and job hunters have very different, and often conflicting, imperatives.  The recruiter is striving to place a good candidate with the client knowing that the client&#039;s hiring process is anything but systematic and time sensitive.  The job hunter often thinks that the recruiter is on his/her side and interested in their career objectives, which couldn&#039;t be further from the truth, and builds unreasonable expectations of the recruiter as a result.

Since many recruiters are paid commission, unethical practices by some are inevitable.  Job hunters needs to be alert to nefarious practices by recruiters.

Some job hunters treat the recruiting and hiring process as a game, and push to win the game regardless of collateral damage to recruiters.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither recruiters nor job hunters are very good at telling each other their needs and expectations.  Little wonder there is usually negative tension between them.</p>
<p>Recruiters and job hunters have very different, and often conflicting, imperatives.  The recruiter is striving to place a good candidate with the client knowing that the client&#8217;s hiring process is anything but systematic and time sensitive.  The job hunter often thinks that the recruiter is on his/her side and interested in their career objectives, which couldn&#8217;t be further from the truth, and builds unreasonable expectations of the recruiter as a result.</p>
<p>Since many recruiters are paid commission, unethical practices by some are inevitable.  Job hunters needs to be alert to nefarious practices by recruiters.</p>
<p>Some job hunters treat the recruiting and hiring process as a game, and push to win the game regardless of collateral damage to recruiters.</p>
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		By: David		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2018 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Ahhhh, much more complicated than it seems but then that is why &quot;talent acquisition&quot; is the most broken, dysfunctional process in business.  Neither side of the table respects the other nor puts in the amount of &quot;wrench time&quot; necessary for a great outcome. As a rule. 

Perhaps the best way to describe it is that everyone is &quot;jumping over dollars to get to nickels&quot;

As a rule, its a war when it should be the First collaborative project between colleagues....

But, there is so much more and I doubt either side is committed enough to make the process anything close to Best Practices....but that is why good TPR&#039;s are worth their weight in the clients gold.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh, much more complicated than it seems but then that is why &#8220;talent acquisition&#8221; is the most broken, dysfunctional process in business.  Neither side of the table respects the other nor puts in the amount of &#8220;wrench time&#8221; necessary for a great outcome. As a rule. </p>
<p>Perhaps the best way to describe it is that everyone is &#8220;jumping over dollars to get to nickels&#8221;</p>
<p>As a rule, its a war when it should be the First collaborative project between colleagues&#8230;.</p>
<p>But, there is so much more and I doubt either side is committed enough to make the process anything close to Best Practices&#8230;.but that is why good TPR&#8217;s are worth their weight in the clients gold.</p>
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		By: Observer		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Observer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I hope neither I nor anyone I like ever needs to work with this guy. To say that he&#039;s weighting this towards himself is a massive understatement. 

It&#039;s not just his attitude, but he sounds like he has absolutely no understanding of what job seekers (and potential job seekers) are dealing with and are looking for.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope neither I nor anyone I like ever needs to work with this guy. To say that he&#8217;s weighting this towards himself is a massive understatement. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s not just his attitude, but he sounds like he has absolutely no understanding of what job seekers (and potential job seekers) are dealing with and are looking for.</p>
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		By: AB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[AB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:58:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2018/03/a-recruiter-said-what-he-hates-about-candidates-and-the-candidates-punched-back-twice-as-hard.html#comment-211292&quot;&gt;the gold digger&lt;/a&gt;.

My husband is going through this at the moment. He has had 3 interviews for a high level IT Project Managers position over the past 2 weeks and he still doesn&#039;t know if he starts work Monday. He has had lengthy face-toface and phone interviews with the employer representatives in multiple states, and they have picked his brains about project methodology but until his signature is on that contract he will continue exploring other offers.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2018/03/a-recruiter-said-what-he-hates-about-candidates-and-the-candidates-punched-back-twice-as-hard.html#comment-211292">the gold digger</a>.</p>
<p>My husband is going through this at the moment. He has had 3 interviews for a high level IT Project Managers position over the past 2 weeks and he still doesn&#8217;t know if he starts work Monday. He has had lengthy face-toface and phone interviews with the employer representatives in multiple states, and they have picked his brains about project methodology but until his signature is on that contract he will continue exploring other offers.</p>
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		By: charles		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[charles]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 21:54:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Except for the lying on my CV (resume in my case since I&#039;m in North America) and not showing up for interviews; I have done, will continue to do, and consider it perfectly normal and professional to do all the other &quot;pet peeves&quot; Ciaran complains about.

Glad that I&#039;m not looking for a recruiter in the UK!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Except for the lying on my CV (resume in my case since I&#8217;m in North America) and not showing up for interviews; I have done, will continue to do, and consider it perfectly normal and professional to do all the other &#8220;pet peeves&#8221; Ciaran complains about.</p>
<p>Glad that I&#8217;m not looking for a recruiter in the UK!</p>
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		By: Bluey		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bluey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:46:34 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Advertising &quot; We need a person for &quot; X &quot; job&quot; and when you apply, you get the old.... &quot; We already filled that position trick. They just want the data based filled.

And you see the SAME job days later as NEW position.

Or you get a position that...  &quot; Oh wow....  that can be permanant.... temp to hire...  &quot; and 9 out of 10 times it is not. And the recruiter knows it and the company knows it. You are gone after the wprk is done or at 90 days when the company can hire you in.

They usualy just need people because the company got a huge order and needs help to complete it.

Agree that workers don&#039;t act honest either like not showing up for work or saying they can do &quot; X &quot; when they can&#039;t.

So it goes both ways as far as problems with the system.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Advertising &#8221; We need a person for &#8221; X &#8221; job&#8221; and when you apply, you get the old&#8230;. &#8221; We already filled that position trick. They just want the data based filled.</p>
<p>And you see the SAME job days later as NEW position.</p>
<p>Or you get a position that&#8230;  &#8221; Oh wow&#8230;.  that can be permanant&#8230;. temp to hire&#8230;  &#8221; and 9 out of 10 times it is not. And the recruiter knows it and the company knows it. You are gone after the wprk is done or at 90 days when the company can hire you in.</p>
<p>They usualy just need people because the company got a huge order and needs help to complete it.</p>
<p>Agree that workers don&#8217;t act honest either like not showing up for work or saying they can do &#8221; X &#8221; when they can&#8217;t.</p>
<p>So it goes both ways as far as problems with the system.</p>
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		By: Jill		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jill]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 19:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Years ago I signed on with one recruiter after providing a resume that detailed my career in banking and politics.  All he sent me were invitations to &quot;join our sales team and earn great commissions.&quot;   Same thing with a friend of mine whose entire career was secretarial/clerical work.  No sales experience for her either, yet she&#039;s magically qualified to work as a sales agent???

I was so turned off I&#039;ve never used another recruiter since and my career hasn&#039;t suffered a bit because of it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Years ago I signed on with one recruiter after providing a resume that detailed my career in banking and politics.  All he sent me were invitations to &#8220;join our sales team and earn great commissions.&#8221;   Same thing with a friend of mine whose entire career was secretarial/clerical work.  No sales experience for her either, yet she&#8217;s magically qualified to work as a sales agent???</p>
<p>I was so turned off I&#8217;ve never used another recruiter since and my career hasn&#8217;t suffered a bit because of it.</p>
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		By: Slippy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Slippy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 18:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Why do we need a recruiter to be successful?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why do we need a recruiter to be successful?</p>
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		By: Maria Rose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Maria Rose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2018 17:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2018/03/a-recruiter-said-what-he-hates-about-candidates-and-the-candidates-punched-back-twice-as-hard.html#comment-211296&quot;&gt;Mr He D Hunter&lt;/a&gt;.

Yeah, they don&#039;t like to mention how your salary is affected by their fee, plus there&#039;s no guarantee that job will continue longer than the time period needed to pay the fee. I would have liked to see the job seekers comments to things like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2018/03/a-recruiter-said-what-he-hates-about-candidates-and-the-candidates-punched-back-twice-as-hard.html#comment-211296">Mr He D Hunter</a>.</p>
<p>Yeah, they don&#8217;t like to mention how your salary is affected by their fee, plus there&#8217;s no guarantee that job will continue longer than the time period needed to pay the fee. I would have liked to see the job seekers comments to things like this.</p>
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