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		By: old_engineer		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213301</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[old_engineer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 19:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I was a non-standard hire to begin with. Both an engineer and a writer, I was paid more like an engineer. With the boss who realized what I could do (and had done on several projects), he gave me a 30% raise. This immediately moved me out any normal salary bands and I was then &quot;zeroed&quot; on all future raises. It was then time to move on.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was a non-standard hire to begin with. Both an engineer and a writer, I was paid more like an engineer. With the boss who realized what I could do (and had done on several projects), he gave me a 30% raise. This immediately moved me out any normal salary bands and I was then &#8220;zeroed&#8221; on all future raises. It was then time to move on.</p>
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		By: TexanInExile		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213300</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[TexanInExile]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2019 15:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213294&quot;&gt;Dorothy&lt;/a&gt;.

The great thing is that it is really easy to find out what jobs pay. So we all know if we are being paid market rate.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213294">Dorothy</a>.</p>
<p>The great thing is that it is really easy to find out what jobs pay. So we all know if we are being paid market rate.</p>
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		By: MariaRose		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MariaRose]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 23:14:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Good article which points out what happens when jobs that have maximum salary levels. I faced something like this but it was making the choice between taking the higher level position with a minimum pay increase or saying at my position where I already did the same job without a title. ( I was considered for the title because of job performance I was doing). I turned down the title after being told that I would not receive a pay increase to assume more responsibility. A management position should always have a higher pay level as the title does pay bills. This employee should have realized that her job has a top salary level beyond which she would not get anything unless the company decides to increase salary levels across the board which in today’s world is very slim in expectation, and finding another job at a higher level. She should just appreciate having that job and do all to keep that job from being discontinued.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article which points out what happens when jobs that have maximum salary levels. I faced something like this but it was making the choice between taking the higher level position with a minimum pay increase or saying at my position where I already did the same job without a title. ( I was considered for the title because of job performance I was doing). I turned down the title after being told that I would not receive a pay increase to assume more responsibility. A management position should always have a higher pay level as the title does pay bills. This employee should have realized that her job has a top salary level beyond which she would not get anything unless the company decides to increase salary levels across the board which in today’s world is very slim in expectation, and finding another job at a higher level. She should just appreciate having that job and do all to keep that job from being discontinued.</p>
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		By: Kobayashi		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213298</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kobayashi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 22:37:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[If the employee is at the top of the pay scale, he or she may not be able to find another job, doing the exact same thing, for more money. As EvilHR Lady mentioned, the market is the market. So, if money is a significant consideration, it&#039;s time to look at moving upward or even into something else (such as a lateral move) that might pay more.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the employee is at the top of the pay scale, he or she may not be able to find another job, doing the exact same thing, for more money. As EvilHR Lady mentioned, the market is the market. So, if money is a significant consideration, it&#8217;s time to look at moving upward or even into something else (such as a lateral move) that might pay more.</p>
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		By: Bluey		</title>
		<link>https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213297</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Bluey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 21:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213292&quot;&gt;Karen&lt;/a&gt;.

Exactly.  Employees need to understand that if they want more $$, they need to move up the ladder or find something, not necessarily lateral or up but a different job.

You can move lets say from customer service to sales, or even customer product training, or whatever.  

Most likely those move  will get you more $$ or at least another path to start moving up again.  

Once you hit the top of the pay scale it is time to evaluate what you want.  Only the employee can figure that out.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213292">Karen</a>.</p>
<p>Exactly.  Employees need to understand that if they want more $$, they need to move up the ladder or find something, not necessarily lateral or up but a different job.</p>
<p>You can move lets say from customer service to sales, or even customer product training, or whatever.  </p>
<p>Most likely those move  will get you more $$ or at least another path to start moving up again.  </p>
<p>Once you hit the top of the pay scale it is time to evaluate what you want.  Only the employee can figure that out.</p>
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		By: MB		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 19:45:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213295&quot;&gt;Ann&lt;/a&gt;.

Great point, Ann.  I also encourage the poster to assign some value to the comfort/familiarity/flexibility/whatever non-cash benefits they have at their current company.  Even if more money could be had elsewhere, would it mean starting over at 2 weeks of vacation?  Would it mean weekend hours?  Try to think about each job as a cumulative of all comp and benefits, not just the raise on a paycheck.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213295">Ann</a>.</p>
<p>Great point, Ann.  I also encourage the poster to assign some value to the comfort/familiarity/flexibility/whatever non-cash benefits they have at their current company.  Even if more money could be had elsewhere, would it mean starting over at 2 weeks of vacation?  Would it mean weekend hours?  Try to think about each job as a cumulative of all comp and benefits, not just the raise on a paycheck.</p>
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		By: Ann		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady, I completely agree with your answer. In addition, in this instance, I think context of health care might also be important. Likely the rates that the company is able to charge for the work of the mental health clinician are dictated by insurance companies and/or Medicare and Medicaid. This employee may not just be at the top of the pay scale; he or she may be at the top of the mandated reimbursement rates.
Changing companies, in this scenario, may not lead to  higher pay.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Evil HR Lady, I completely agree with your answer. In addition, in this instance, I think context of health care might also be important. Likely the rates that the company is able to charge for the work of the mental health clinician are dictated by insurance companies and/or Medicare and Medicaid. This employee may not just be at the top of the pay scale; he or she may be at the top of the mandated reimbursement rates.<br />
Changing companies, in this scenario, may not lead to  higher pay.</p>
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		By: Dorothy		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dorothy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 15:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I’m solidly with Suzanne on this. So many W2 employees have the attitude the LW has: I want ... or I deserve ... rather than doing some research and figuring out I’m worth ...

Your work is worth what the market will pay. Experience, after a certain point, rarely has market value. 

And attitude is important.  As Mr. Snowbird said, older, more experienced workers are vulnerable to layoffs. Entitled, grumpy employees move themselves closer to the list. 

So I suggest the LW do some research, look around and see if s/he’s paid at the market rate. Consider putting some if your energy into a side hustle to generate more income.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m solidly with Suzanne on this. So many W2 employees have the attitude the LW has: I want &#8230; or I deserve &#8230; rather than doing some research and figuring out I’m worth &#8230;</p>
<p>Your work is worth what the market will pay. Experience, after a certain point, rarely has market value. </p>
<p>And attitude is important.  As Mr. Snowbird said, older, more experienced workers are vulnerable to layoffs. Entitled, grumpy employees move themselves closer to the list. </p>
<p>So I suggest the LW do some research, look around and see if s/he’s paid at the market rate. Consider putting some if your energy into a side hustle to generate more income.</p>
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		By: Evil HR Lady		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Evil HR Lady]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 14:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213291&quot;&gt;Chris Hogg&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2019/01/i-didnt-get-a-raise-but-everyone-else-did.html#comment-213291">Chris Hogg</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you!</p>
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		By: Karen		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2019 13:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Dear Evil HR Lady - While it is disappointing to the writer, your response is in line with reality. There is only so much companies can give once a team member reaches the height of the salary band. Another commenter suggested a bonus - gresat idea - or perhaps extra PTO as an incentive to keep the writer on board.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Evil HR Lady &#8211; While it is disappointing to the writer, your response is in line with reality. There is only so much companies can give once a team member reaches the height of the salary band. Another commenter suggested a bonus &#8211; gresat idea &#8211; or perhaps extra PTO as an incentive to keep the writer on board.</p>
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