Comments on: A Fish Tank Full of Sexual Harassment? Why Diversity Helps

By: Evil HR Lady

Evil HR Lady — Sat, 05 Oct 2019 22:01:14 +0000

In reply to Senatormeathooks. They may be eating. We have neon tetras as well and they love to eat each other. I'm sure they'd eat Molly babies.

By: Senatormeathooks

Senatormeathooks — Fri, 04 Oct 2019 18:00:53 +0000

In reply to Evil HR Lady.

Goodness, that IS surprising!

I wonder if the mollies, who tend to be lower-yield than, say, guppies, are managing to eat them all very quickly. That happens.

In any case, it’s always great to talk fish with a fellow enthusiast.

By: Evil HR Lady

Evil HR Lady — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:35:56 +0000

In reply to Senatormeathooks. We've had the mollies for about 6 months with no babies, which has surprised me. But, we also have lots of good hiding places--plants and rocks with holes in them.

By: Evil HR Lady

Evil HR Lady — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 11:20:29 +0000

In reply to Bobboccio. It's not a perfect analogy. They are fish. And when one dies, the others eat ti. So, you can only take things so far.

By: Senatormeathooks

Senatormeathooks — Thu, 03 Oct 2019 00:53:55 +0000

For what it’s worth, live bearers such as mollies and guppies require that ratio so the male gets his attention split enough between the three so he will not harass any one individual female to an early grave.

Enough hiding places can help too, not only for the females but for all the freaking baby fish you will inevitably have.

By: Goober

Goober — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 21:11:43 +0000

In reply to grannybunny. Hollywood isn't like the real world. The only unforgivable sin is being blamed (rightly or not) for a movie not making money. Anything else will, eventually, be forgiven if a person has a track record of successful productions.

By: Bobboccio

Bobboccio — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 20:20:20 +0000

Suzanne, I am not sure what definition of “diversity” you are using, but I would say a ratio of one male fish to one female is about as gender diverse as you can get. Once it is 50 / 50, adding more female fish actually decreases diversity.

By: Dorothy Young

Dorothy Young — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 17:17:19 +0000

I’m with granny bunny on this. If we treated sexual harassment like any other sort of workplace misbehavior or criminality we’d be on the right road.

“Ideally, women should be supportive of each other.” ideally PEOPLE should be supportive of each other. It’s not women’s work to train men to behave themselves. It’s management’s job; it’s families’ jobs. It’s other men’s job.

If a man were embezzling from the company would it be his women subordinates’ responsibility to stop his wrongdoing?

By: grannybunny

grannybunny — Wed, 02 Oct 2019 13:42:17 +0000

I don’t think it’s either fair or accurate to say “Plenty of women knew what Harvey Weinstein was up to and they ignored it because it wasn’t happening to them or they were afraid to stand up to him as well.” A lot of people — women and men — knew what Harvey was up to; he was notorious. Those who ignored it — largely company officials and legal counsel — did so because Harvey was, nevertheless, considered commercially valuable to the enterprise, notwithstanding his loathsome morality (or lack of same). Frequently, they went further and defended Weinstein’s actions, either attacking the whistleblowers or paying them off to silence their outcries. It’s not likely that many women who were potential victims “ignored” the harassment. More likely, they were attempting to avoid becoming victims themselves or — if unsuccessful and victimized — cognizant of the fact that reporting it would further harm them more than it would help. NPR currently has a good article on what happens to victims following their Me Too moments. Most are worse off than when they started, and some are remorseful for having spoken up. Those who aren’t remorseful frequently recognize that they were martyrs whose primary accomplishment was to prevent future victimization by the same perpetrators.