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		By: not me		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229418&quot;&gt;not me&lt;/a&gt;.

This vaccine just barely came out - they don&#039;t know how effective it is yet - and yes the young and healthy will probably not get the vaccine. If they don&#039;t work in the medical field, aren&#039;t going to school etc it is very unlikely that they will be forced to get it just like they don&#039;t get the flu vaccine. Those people who are the most vulnerable should and  will which hopefully will protect them. And this is the priority for the vaccine being given currently.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229418">not me</a>.</p>
<p>This vaccine just barely came out &#8211; they don&#8217;t know how effective it is yet &#8211; and yes the young and healthy will probably not get the vaccine. If they don&#8217;t work in the medical field, aren&#8217;t going to school etc it is very unlikely that they will be forced to get it just like they don&#8217;t get the flu vaccine. Those people who are the most vulnerable should and  will which hopefully will protect them. And this is the priority for the vaccine being given currently.</p>
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		By: grannybunny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grannybunny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 12:28:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229418&quot;&gt;not me&lt;/a&gt;.

You&#039;re the one who said, &quot;If I am not compromised and am young and healthy why should I have to take it?&quot;  You also claimed that you&#039;re not getting vaccinated would not affect others.  In order to establish herd immunity to COVID-19, a high percentage of the population will need to be vaccinated, with the estimates I&#039;ve seen ranging from 70-85%.  As the virus continues to mutate and become even more transmissible, that&#039;s the only way we&#039;re going to be able to curb this pandemic.  I always get a flu shot, too, and recognize that each year&#039;s flu vaccine is formulated anew, and administered soon after approved, just like these new coronavirus ones.  If anything, we should be more eager to get the COVID-19 vaccine, since it&#039;s more effective than the vast majority of flu shots, and the coronavirus is so much more contagious and deadly than the flu.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229418">not me</a>.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re the one who said, &#8220;If I am not compromised and am young and healthy why should I have to take it?&#8221;  You also claimed that you&#8217;re not getting vaccinated would not affect others.  In order to establish herd immunity to COVID-19, a high percentage of the population will need to be vaccinated, with the estimates I&#8217;ve seen ranging from 70-85%.  As the virus continues to mutate and become even more transmissible, that&#8217;s the only way we&#8217;re going to be able to curb this pandemic.  I always get a flu shot, too, and recognize that each year&#8217;s flu vaccine is formulated anew, and administered soon after approved, just like these new coronavirus ones.  If anything, we should be more eager to get the COVID-19 vaccine, since it&#8217;s more effective than the vast majority of flu shots, and the coronavirus is so much more contagious and deadly than the flu.</p>
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		By: not me		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Dec 2020 04:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229410&quot;&gt;grannybunny&lt;/a&gt;.

Typhoid Mary. I wear a mask, work from home, don&#039;t go to bars, fly, eat out. No one is getting anything from me - I am also not young - 59. So wrong on all counts. I always get a flu shot, but not wanting to get this vaccine quite so soon -]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229410">grannybunny</a>.</p>
<p>Typhoid Mary. I wear a mask, work from home, don&#8217;t go to bars, fly, eat out. No one is getting anything from me &#8211; I am also not young &#8211; 59. So wrong on all counts. I always get a flu shot, but not wanting to get this vaccine quite so soon &#8211;</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229411&quot;&gt;grannybunny&lt;/a&gt;.

There&#039;s precedent for this. Given the nature of my work I have had to have a number of vaccines, as part of the OSHA requirements for safe work places. There are work-arounds if someone absolutely refuses to get the vaccine (there are religious exemptions), but often the work-around is not pleasant. I knew a guy who, for religious reasons, could not shave, on a site where rescue respirators were located every 50 feet in case of emergency. The work-around was that if anything went wrong, he was to immediately don Level A PPE. In the South. Regardless of time of year. He thought it was worth it, but me? I shave. I know another person who refused some vaccines, and they weren&#039;t allowed to work on certain sites. Eventually they found that they didn&#039;t have enough work to remain employed at the company. It wasn&#039;t an attack against that person, it&#039;s just the nature of the work.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229411">grannybunny</a>.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s precedent for this. Given the nature of my work I have had to have a number of vaccines, as part of the OSHA requirements for safe work places. There are work-arounds if someone absolutely refuses to get the vaccine (there are religious exemptions), but often the work-around is not pleasant. I knew a guy who, for religious reasons, could not shave, on a site where rescue respirators were located every 50 feet in case of emergency. The work-around was that if anything went wrong, he was to immediately don Level A PPE. In the South. Regardless of time of year. He thought it was worth it, but me? I shave. I know another person who refused some vaccines, and they weren&#8217;t allowed to work on certain sites. Eventually they found that they didn&#8217;t have enough work to remain employed at the company. It wasn&#8217;t an attack against that person, it&#8217;s just the nature of the work.</p>
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		By: James		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 18:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229399&quot;&gt;Kathy&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m a bit unclear on the terminology here. Does the 90% number mean you are, as an individual, 90% less likely to get ill from the virus? Or does it mean that 90% of the people who are vaccinated do not get ill from the virus (within a certain time window)? It doesn&#039;t really matter--the vaccine is still important to get--I&#039;m just unclear how that number is calculated.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229399">Kathy</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a bit unclear on the terminology here. Does the 90% number mean you are, as an individual, 90% less likely to get ill from the virus? Or does it mean that 90% of the people who are vaccinated do not get ill from the virus (within a certain time window)? It doesn&#8217;t really matter&#8211;the vaccine is still important to get&#8211;I&#8217;m just unclear how that number is calculated.</p>
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		By: grannybunny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grannybunny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229396&quot;&gt;Steve Kershaw&lt;/a&gt;.

By not requiring employees to be vaccinated, employers are taking on the responsibility of not providing a safe workplace for their employees.]]></description>
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<p>By not requiring employees to be vaccinated, employers are taking on the responsibility of not providing a safe workplace for their employees.</p>
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		By: grannybunny		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[grannybunny]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 12:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229401&quot;&gt;not me&lt;/a&gt;.

Give it up, Typhoid Mary.  The young and healthy ones who think none of this applies to them are a major reason why America is going to end up losing half-a-million of our population -- mostly unnecessarily -- to this pandemic.]]></description>
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<p>Give it up, Typhoid Mary.  The young and healthy ones who think none of this applies to them are a major reason why America is going to end up losing half-a-million of our population &#8212; mostly unnecessarily &#8212; to this pandemic.</p>
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		By: Me neither		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Me neither]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 19:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229392&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

Blanket statements don&#039;t change facts:

As of 11/1 of this year (taken directly from Johns Hopkins):
US population: 330,500,000 (approx)
Cases: 9,126,361
Deaths: 230,556
Percentage of cases to population: 3%
Percentage of death to cases: 2.5%
Probability of contracting: .028
Probability of death if contracted: .025
Probability of death (all cause): .001

Any may I remind everyone that a majority of those deaths were people that had co-morbidity. Is it sad, sure. But the numbers tell a different story that this thing is nowhere near the calamity and hysteria that&#039;s been pushed.

So, as a risk management exercise I find the cost/benefit to fall on the side of NOT getting it.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229392">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>Blanket statements don&#8217;t change facts:</p>
<p>As of 11/1 of this year (taken directly from Johns Hopkins):<br />
US population: 330,500,000 (approx)<br />
Cases: 9,126,361<br />
Deaths: 230,556<br />
Percentage of cases to population: 3%<br />
Percentage of death to cases: 2.5%<br />
Probability of contracting: .028<br />
Probability of death if contracted: .025<br />
Probability of death (all cause): .001</p>
<p>Any may I remind everyone that a majority of those deaths were people that had co-morbidity. Is it sad, sure. But the numbers tell a different story that this thing is nowhere near the calamity and hysteria that&#8217;s been pushed.</p>
<p>So, as a risk management exercise I find the cost/benefit to fall on the side of NOT getting it.</p>
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		By: not me		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 05:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229399&quot;&gt;Kathy&lt;/a&gt;.

So then aren&#039;t you the candidate to take the vaccine and be happy about it? If I am not compromised and am young and healthy why should I have to take it? You took it to protect yourself so me not taking it should not affect you right?]]></description>
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<p>So then aren&#8217;t you the candidate to take the vaccine and be happy about it? If I am not compromised and am young and healthy why should I have to take it? You took it to protect yourself so me not taking it should not affect you right?</p>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[not me]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 05:27:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229392&quot;&gt;Observer&lt;/a&gt;.

I&#039;m not making any thing up. Visit who or cdc and look at information about the vaccine. It is way too early to have answers to these questions. 

If we don&#039;t know if it stops transmission, we don&#039;t know if it prevents you from getting it - then again I ask why get it?

At my company we can work from home - easy to continue that rather than force employees to get a vaccine that was rushed.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.evilhrlady.org/2020/12/the-eeoc-releases-guidelines-on-mandatory-workplace-vaccinations.html#comment-229392">Observer</a>.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not making any thing up. Visit who or cdc and look at information about the vaccine. It is way too early to have answers to these questions. </p>
<p>If we don&#8217;t know if it stops transmission, we don&#8217;t know if it prevents you from getting it &#8211; then again I ask why get it?</p>
<p>At my company we can work from home &#8211; easy to continue that rather than force employees to get a vaccine that was rushed.</p>
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